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greetings and salutations

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old friends and new and welcome back to

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truth seekers

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tonight we're broadcasting here from uh

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the apocalypse cabin

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which i've come to affectionately call

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this place

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uh this is my almost off the grid cabin

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uh where we have that i've been building

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for some time most of you

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who follow me or have been seeing

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it slowly come together it's nice to be

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able to actually do shows from here used

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to be that i would leave

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on wednesday or thursday and come back

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on sunday and

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couldn't get anything uh on the internet

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done

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but luckily we now have a little

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bit of an internet connection here which

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is great to have

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so tonight we're going to be talking

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about ufo cults and maybe colts in

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general

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i have a fascination with colts i don't

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know why

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but if there's a documentary about a

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cult whether it's david koresh or

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scientology

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or nexium i gotta watch it

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i think i'm particularly interested in

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the psychology of how cults work

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and why they work so i came across this

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podcast called deep programmed uh with

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the host melissa dawn who's going to be

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our guest tonight

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and i got to tell you uh she covers all

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different cults not just the ufo cults

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but the ufo cold stuff was specifically

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interest to me because

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she sort of had the same experience that

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i did getting on the billy meyer crazy

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train and having to deal with idiot

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michael horn

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this happened to her a lot of what

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happened to her happened to me

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previously it's it felt like a rerun to

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me when i heard what the

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ufo cult nuts were doing to her because

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they'd already put me through a similar

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thing

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but in any case folks let's bring in our

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guests tonight uh melissa

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there you go welcome melissa

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thank you for having me on your show oh

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it's my pleasure really

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i've been catching up on your uh

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episodes

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and it's funny that we have a lot of

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friends in common sort of because

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you have ryan on your show and cal on

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your show and i've had

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both those guys i think they're great

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guys ryan's show that i put out was

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actually a really old episode i had on

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an old

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podcast and i thought and it was about

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david wilcox and

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it was just out there you were talking

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about it and i'm like i'm going to edit

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this up and put it back

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out so yeah yeah like crazy crazy stuff

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uh you know yeah it's just and

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cal is awesome because he busted he's

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busted calls he's actually gone

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undercover how convenient is that

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yeah the stuff the stories that he tells

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about going undercover and some

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especially in the billy meyer thing is

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for people that don't know not only did

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he go undercover once

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he did he waited like 10 years and did

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it a second time as a totally separate

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person and just

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made up a name uh but they sort of

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like got wise to him the second time and

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he had to get the hell out of there

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well that's the thing like if you go

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into a cult you have to have

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it has to be strategically planned so

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that you actually don't get

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indoctrinated and trapped

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you have to have like a way out and you

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have to have a lot of it has to be

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really well planned

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yeah it's gonna be there it makes me

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think that you need like that magneto

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helmet or something to prevent them from

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controlling your mind

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while you're in there you know like

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listen i have nothing against harry

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krishna's in fact

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when i was having a really tough time uh

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is a friend who was all like kind of a

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squatter friend

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rock guy and he was like hey you know

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you can go over to these harry krishnas

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and they'll give you a really good vegan

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meal anytime you're hungry lunch

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breakfast dinner you just go over there

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and they'll talk to you but they're not

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you know and they weren't very really

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like trying to recruit me but i remember

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going in there for the meal

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and being like on guard like i got to

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make sure they don't get in my head and

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shaving my head and wearing robes and

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approach it honestly i had

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my ex-boyfriend he was vegan and he's he

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has a lot of mental health issues and he

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anarcho-communist harry krishna like he

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would jump being missing

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he's stuck with the antifa identity and

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the anarcho-communist but he would

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always jump from group to group so they

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look for people

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like that who have addiction problems or

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are out with their family or have

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emotional and mental health problems

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they look for people who are really

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vulnerable

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that's a that's a hope to get people to

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join and it also

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sort of for for harry christmas to me it

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seemed like they were trying to show

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everyone

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what good humanitarians they were like

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are you hungry

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we'll feed you and and certainly that's

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a pretty altruistic

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and like admirable thing to do but if

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they have an ulterior motive which is to

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recruit you

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and then get you to like sell flowers on

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a street corner all day for pennies

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yeah like they you keep pennies and you

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give all the money to the cult

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but they feed you and clothe you and and

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put a roof over your head you live in

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this commune you know and there was

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uh they were all over philadelphia where

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yeah they used to be houses yeah they

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used to be in

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in canada here my mom said they were in

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calgary where she lives she was because

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we were actually just talking about them

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on the last show we had we talked about

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how diet and restrictive calories slept

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sleep deprivation

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and over stimulation with positive

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reinforcement as over stimulation can be

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used to control people

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and she said they the hare krishna were

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like that and they were

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yeah you would see them all the time all

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your new podcast is called deprogrammed

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and it's all about cults and i just

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wonder why

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why the water what is it about cults

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made you do a whole show about them well

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it's about cults um and we'll touch i

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don't mind touching on the old cult and

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paranormal i used to do that but there

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was just there's too many illogical

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and there was just too many it just

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i want it to be something more solid and

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like i didn't want to have guests coming

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on and you know telling

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repeating stuff that wasn't true that's

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been long improved as hoaxes and stuff

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paranormal and i had a lot of guests we

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cults anyways and i had covered one guy

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who operates

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on the internet i won't say his name but

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the show was called

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we called him the zombie witch doctor

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guest leticia would come on and we we

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were talking about cults and researching

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i was just identifying a lot of internet

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youtube people who were unbeknownst to

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little groups of cults of women that

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they used for money and so i thought

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you know i want to get away from the

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paranormal we're researching calls this

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stuff's fascinating and i think we're

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going to need a lot of help with this in

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the future

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because of the internet so why not

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yeah and it seems to me that like people

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don't know it but even like

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there's definitely ufo cults and groups

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of ufo believers or you know there's

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people like corey good

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too which is like a i'm a see secrets

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astronaut cult you know but a lot of the

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a lot of the stuff that that you see in

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in more recognized cults like

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scientology they use the same tactics

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you know like that guy's suing people

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out the wazoo

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anybody that's critical of him he goes

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the thing is is with the system is even

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if he knows if even if they know that

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they're not going to win they still sue

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they know you don't have money and it

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will batter you down and take care of

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and emotional stress so

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they're like what why not we'll just get

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it going and ruin their lives and and

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create a lot of smear campaigning and

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chaos and

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that'll fix that i mean narcissists

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psychopaths often use court systems to

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abuse people

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yeah but we i think we see it in an

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inordinate amount of time with some of

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these cults and cult leaders

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oh yeah the the scientology is called

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fair game they'll sue you

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into oblivion if you dare oppose them

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or anything i mean can you imagine being

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the judge when corey good

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takes all those people to court and like

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they said my ufo stuff and my ascension

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wasn't real and i want like

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i couldn't imagine being the judge

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having to deal with that yeah but you

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know i've been reading the court

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documents and i think the problem for a

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judge is going to be and people always

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forget this

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like people who are plugged into like

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paranormal land and conspiracy land

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know about this stuff but like a judge

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he's not going to know that that guy's

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somebody's got to tell him like the

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plaintiffs in the case are going to have

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to show evidence like this guy's been

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saying that he was in a secret space

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that he time traveled that he'd been to

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the moon

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that spaceships landed in his backyard

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and took him to a moon base shaped like

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a nazi symbol

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right but he fought reptilian beings in

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space

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went through stargates and saved earth

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that he talks to inner earth people

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and and that he is now the modern day

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enoch

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so the fact that people i think the

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biggest problem is the fact is that

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people believe this stuff

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and i'm laughing at it and they're not

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they're like oh my god and i i'm going

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to assume that he just didn't come out

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and say he

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did all those things that it was a slow

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build up with their audience over time

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because it's just so ridiculous yeah and

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and then and really it was about money

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in their situation

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it's him and david wilcock they get on

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gaia and the first season is a big

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success

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but he's out of [\h__\h] stories so they

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gotta go away

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and figure out new [\h__\h] stories to

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tell and suddenly he has more recovered

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memories

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and suddenly he didn't just go to space

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once on the 20 and back program he did

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it twice

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and then season three and season four

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come along and no

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he went to space three times for 20

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years and was age regressed and time

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traveled back

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yeah the story gets grander and grander

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the thing is

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is i mean no disrespect to gaia but

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they're um

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at some they you know you've got to have

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a level of um

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a credibility like i mean at some point

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we have to say realize like this is

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fictional that and somebody's not

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doing this if they've got him on their

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channel and he's making all these claims

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at some point

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if you want to be credible and you have

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to ask for evidence so if you're going

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to have people like this

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on your network you're going to have

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trouble eventually

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yeah like really yeah then we see it

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time and time again with them but really

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i mean they they're pushed those nazca

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mummies that were made out of like a

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bunch of

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fake body parts well real body parts

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like sewn together

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right they push those as alien mummies

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they pushed

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now they have this this latin guy that

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tells all kinds of crazy stories

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just like corey good with no evidence

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whatsoever so

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yeah it's like ufo attainment you know

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or paranormal attainment

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and having presented as real and that

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bothers me

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when they they say all these statements

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as if they're factual statements

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and nobody stops them and says excuse me

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where are you getting this [\h__\h] and can

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you prove

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any of this stuff i mean haven't you

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noticed like

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like in the 90s like tlc or history

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they all used to be pretty good channels

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yeah they actually had

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really good content i don't know what

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happened

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i i guess they changed their way of

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marketing and thought well whatever the

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people like

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whatever gets the views it doesn't

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matter if it's true or not

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that's what matters yeah both the

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learning channel and the history channel

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used to

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have really evidence based documentaries

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well researched you know like the

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history channel had all these world war

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ii documentaries and i guess to some

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extent they still do

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but i think they figured out that like

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clicks and views is what's going to

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bring them the money

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so you know i mean ancient aliens has

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been

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debunked out the wazoo they are terrible

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at fact checking anything they say it's

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just all theory and conjecture and

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speculation

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um they made a spoof of ancient aliens

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called ancient

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and one of the comments on the video was

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like hey i did the editing for ancient

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aliens and this is hilarious

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yeah at least somebody can still can

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still appreciate that

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yeah yeah so you had uh

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you had kalkwarf on your show and then

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mikey horn

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and all the nutters from the billy meyer

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camp started with this harassment

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campaign against you

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which is basically what happened to me

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before it happened to you

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it's the same exact tactics right

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it was predictable um now how it started

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was it started as a couple of comments

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on

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instagram and i didn't think anything of

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it because

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i'm not trying to offend anybody but

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there's a lot of people who get upset

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about ufos

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and they're beholden to whatever they

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think and they'll get upset so i thought

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it was just a couple of comments

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and then they they put a website as

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evidence against cal

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and the minute they stuck that website

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up i knew it was either that mikey horn

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guy or one of them because it was

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the website that they have that smears

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cal like it's like they spent

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13 years of their lives making posts

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mirroring cal and in the middle

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and trying to find anything that they

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can use against him

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and and i'm like like the fact that

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somebody put that as evidence just so it

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shows how stupid they are and i knew

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that okay no random person is doing that

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the person who created that blog is

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probably doing that and it's all

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probably the same

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people and then the email started and

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the youtube comments and the

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the call on facebook to attack me and i

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was like okay

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here we go yeah and i like that mikey

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horn keeps changing his story

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and recently he sent us both an email

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which i think we're going to share today

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because

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well he put a comment on my my i wrote

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an article about this so i made sure i

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did a rebuttal video

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of the calcore thing and i wrote an

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article i didn't even read

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his comment on the article because it

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was it was longer than my article

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yeah i was like whatever i don't have

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time for this buddy

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thank you though because suddenly a lot

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of these

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me alone because they have a new target

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now

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and you're uh i guess you're higher on

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their list of priorities now

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i was i was fully expecting to show up

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on their blog maybe i have already i

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thought and

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like they might photoshop me with a

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[\h__\h] hat or something like that like

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thinking

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i was like if i show up on that blog i

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won't be surprised

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yeah they did they did similar stuff to

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me

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and like it gets really ridiculous uh

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like

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uh and somehow mike michael horn keeps

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sending me stuff like

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he's gonna have a web seminar why would

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he send me that

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i think you know what i think he's done

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i think he's taken your email

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and and put it in his um

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his his campaign thing i think he's and

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gone and entered

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your email you know how like you go to

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your website you put your email to get a

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newsletter

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yeah yeah i think you should probably go

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on and put it in

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so it can continue to send to you and

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harass because that's what i started to

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get and i just

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i blocked him and let it go to spam i'm

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like oh that bugger he's put my email

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and people will do that to harass you

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they'll take your emails and they'll

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start putting it in different places and

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newsletters yeah and i tried to

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unsubscribe so he must do it multiple

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times

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because there's no unsubscribe from what

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from the latest ones

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yeah and that's actually in canada it's

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illegal for them not to have an

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unsubscribe button

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wow so i'm gonna i'm gonna share first

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i'm gonna share one

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that is just to show the ridiculousness

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of

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michael horn so he michael horn's upset

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with me because i called out his user

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use of wendell stevens as

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as a trustworthy source for proof that

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the billy myer case is real because

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wendell stevens was a multi-convicted

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child molester with multiple convictions

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for child related sexual offenses

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and we got into this big thing on my

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show because i was like you're gonna

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cite a child molester as proof of the

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laser gun

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that was led to billy meyer it's

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hysterical

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and so uh later michael horn told me

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that i'm slandering wendell stevens that

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i'm defaming

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wendell stevens and uh all of this

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different stuff

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and now he's say basically he sent me he

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sent an email to

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i think thousands of people ending he

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like cc'd me in that email like he sent

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this email to his entire

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email list basically telling everybody

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that i don't like wendell stephens

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because i was raised catholic

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and maybe i was sexually abused by a

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priest that's what he's implying he

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doesn't outright say it but we're going

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to share that first

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because just to show the ridiculousness

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of this guy

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and then we'll share the the email where

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he is

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going after both of us because that

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one's equally funny

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okay so and people have to be aware that

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this is i'm putting this out there in

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public because

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people need to know uh from billy myers

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camp this is a form of harassment

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and it's probably i'm not a lawyer but

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you can't

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basically call somebody a victim of

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childhood sexual abuse or imply they

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were

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with no evidence to thousands of people

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on an email list

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that's not a good thing to do well

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that's projection

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yeah he says to all concerned it's

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perhaps becoming clearer why stephen

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cambion has maintained a relentless

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vicious defamatory attack against the

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late wendell stevens

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and just in my defense i said that he

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was a child molester when michael horn

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was on my show i have not been on any

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vicious or defamatory

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you know campaign against this guy it's

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ridiculous you aren't you actually have

563
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the evidence to

564
00:20:31,750 --> 00:20:30,720
yes i do when we have the court files in

565
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,760
this new book

566
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:33,360
while deliberately avoiding and

567
00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:35,120
suppressing the real story

568
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:38,039
of his frame up and stephen's

569
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:39,919
well-established good character so

570
00:20:43,669 --> 00:20:41,280
here's michael horn

571
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,679
claiming that wendell stevens was not a

572
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,600
convicted child molester or that he was

573
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:46,960
and he was framed

574
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:48,480
and michael hernandez at various times

575
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:51,039
claimed that he was framed by the cia

576
00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:52,640
so here in this email he says stephen

577
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,240
campbell was raised catholic

578
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,000
the catholic church has for centuries

579
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:58,000
been a cesspool of pedophilia especially

580
00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:58,640
exploiting

581
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,760
young boys tellingly cambians attempt to

582
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,520
discredit the authenticity of the billy

583
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:05,200
meyer ufo contents are never

584
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:06,720
substantiated with any

585
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:10,000
credible refutation of the still ira

586
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,840
irrep what is it you're irrefutable

587
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,039
irreproducible evidence

588
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,880
which is a lie because he basically says

589
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:20,559
nobody can reproduce this evidence and

590
00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:21,200
everybody

591
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:24,240
you too can get some trashcan lids and

592
00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:26,080
and hang them with a fishing string and

593
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:27,440
take some pictures

594
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,760
they're definitely reproducible nor any

595
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,919
of the independent scientific experts

596
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:34,480
no the only so-called scientific expert

597
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:36,799
whoever looked at those photos

598
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,919
was a discredited self-described image

599
00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:41,840
analyst who lied about his education in

600
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:42,559
the form of

601
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,080
jim delatoso uh who all analyzed and

602
00:21:49,830 --> 00:21:47,600
often

603
00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,840
authenticated it cambian never attempts

604
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,600
to take people on like

605
00:21:55,350 --> 00:21:53,840
united states air force osi investigator

606
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,360
supervisor joe tisk

607
00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,440
this guy loves to have air force people

608
00:22:01,350 --> 00:21:59,679
that say the billy meyer case is real

609
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:01,360
i don't know that joe tisk did the last

610
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:03,039
time i talked to that gentleman he was

611
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,000
telling bill

612
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:06,480
michael horn to not use him as a source

613
00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,280
anymore

614
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:10,080
so strangely he attacked stevens instead

615
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:10,720
also

616
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,039
incorrectly attributed to him the role

617
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:15,200
of sole authenticator of the case and

618
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,159
its evidence

619
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,080
could cambion's irrational attacks be

620
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:20,240
deeply rooted in issues pertaining to

621
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:20,880
his

622
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,159
own early life experiences with the

623
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:26,240
institutionalized degeneracy of the

624
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,360
church and its actual child molesters

625
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,400
pedoras pedophiles etc

626
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:34,640
so you know just i just want to say that

627
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:35,600
like

628
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:39,600
on the record i was an altar boy right

629
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,120
i had no zero

630
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:46,720
uh problems in any capacity with any

631
00:22:49,830 --> 00:22:47,360
priest

632
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:49,840
ever not sexual if i wasn't physically

633
00:22:53,190 --> 00:22:51,440
abused i wasn't verbally abused well

634
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:53,200
maybe i was verbally abused a little bit

635
00:22:58,470 --> 00:22:54,559
some of those old hack

636
00:23:00,870 --> 00:22:58,480
you know oh [\h__\h] priests man

637
00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:00,880
6 a.m mass on sunday would be like

638
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,679
cranky

639
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:03,360
get the wine come on we're running by

640
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:05,280
schedule you know like

641
00:23:09,270 --> 00:23:06,960
but yeah i've never suffered any

642
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:09,280
physical abuse or especially sexual

643
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:10,880
abuse and for him

644
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:13,600
to send this out to like thousands and

645
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,559
thousands of people

646
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:17,120
basically telling everybody that i'm a

647
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,640
childhood i'm a victim of

648
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:21,280
childhood sexual abuse when i'm not is

649
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:23,360
it's ridiculous

650
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:25,919
i mean okay um there's actually

651
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,440
international laws

652
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,919
that make stalking and internet abuse

653
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:32,000
illegal like i hope this guy knows this

654
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,960
because um

655
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,559
you are actually making a claim that's

656
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:36,320
provable he's just making

657
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:39,280
something up you know work something

658
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,480
else

659
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:42,640
and this idiot is now on record in an

660
00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:44,720
email saying that wendell's was

661
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:47,360
wendell stevens was framed that's what

662
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,240
he's saying

663
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,080
the thing is is even if somebody was

664
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,840
molested by an altar boy that doesn't

665
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,320
mean anything and so he's just gone

666
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:57,520
and it's not true but even if if if if

667
00:24:04,149 --> 00:23:59,360
somebody was he's gone and shamed them

668
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,159
and tried to use that to discredit them

669
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,000
this is definitely a form of harassment

670
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,440
because he's making me

671
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,600
aware that he's sending this email to

672
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:11,360
thousands of people telling them that i

673
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,200
was probably a victim of childhood

674
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,200
sexual abuse at the hands of a priest

675
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:16,960
and that's why i say that the billy

676
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:18,960
meyer case is [\h__\h]

677
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,360
[\h__\h] yeah no there's a thousand

678
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:23,120
reasons why i say the billy meyer case

679
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:24,080
is [\h__\h] and

680
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:27,520
my my uh religion for that i grew up

681
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,039
with has zero to do with

682
00:24:34,230 --> 00:24:32,159
any of this or with why you know why

683
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,240
i called him on wendell stevens because

684
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:37,039
i i i've heard him cite wendell stevens

685
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:39,120
as proof the billy meyer case is real

686
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:40,320
for decades

687
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:42,000
and the whole time i knew that wendell

688
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,919
stevens was a convicted pedophile i just

689
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:46,000
could never get to all the records i got

690
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,880
to some of them

691
00:24:49,909 --> 00:24:48,480
right and nobody ever stopped them and

692
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,919
said excuse me

693
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,760
you're saying that this man is the

694
00:24:56,470 --> 00:24:53,760
reason that billy myers

695
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,480
is true did you know he was a child

696
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:58,320
molester and maybe we shouldn't trust

697
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:00,159
the word of a child molester that was

698
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,440
the point i was trying to make with him

699
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,200
and he got so pissed

700
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:05,520
because now he has almost nobody that he

701
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,120
can point to and say

702
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,039
nobody credible that he can point to and

703
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,679
say see the billy meyer case is real

704
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,279
and he has been doing this with wendell

705
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,960
stevens for decades

706
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:17,200
well and and i mean the fact i don't

707
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,320
know did he know

708
00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:20,080
wendell stephens or is he just saying

709
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:21,360
using him as evidence

710
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:24,720
oh god yeah that's even freakier

711
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:26,240
the fact that you i don't know you'd

712
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:27,919
spend your whole life doing this day

713
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,279
after day he must make

714
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,120
some good money i mean you must make

715
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,360
money from it to spend this week

716
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:35,360
but he recently had a fundraiser that

717
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,760
raised i think fourteen thousand dollars

718
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,760
to do a public relations campaign for

719
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,600
billy meyer and he's the public

720
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:43,600
relations guy for billy meyer so i guess

721
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,279
he gets to live off of that fourteen

722
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,120
thousand dollars or whatever

723
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,640
we don't know where that money's going

724
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:50,880
but all of these scammers these ufo

725
00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:52,720
scammers love gofundme

726
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:55,520
they all love you know fake donation

727
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:56,400
scams

728
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,919
and you know so yeah and he's he's

729
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,840
oftentimes claimed that he doesn't get

730
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:04,559
paid from this that he does it pro bono

731
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,039
but i've talked to ufo convention

732
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,720
organizers and said

733
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:10,000
when michael horton gives his talk on

734
00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,320
billy meyer do you pay him oh yeah

735
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,919
you pay him just like any other speaker

736
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:15,919
yeah yeah we pay him about the same as

737
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,480
the other

738
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,120
people at the conference you know so

739
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:21,039
he's constantly lying saying he doesn't

740
00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:22,240
make money of course he's this

741
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,840
has been his full-time living for like

742
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:25,279
30 years

743
00:26:30,390 --> 00:26:28,720
if you do

744
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,400
yeah but i do think about him in the

745
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:32,080
ridiculousness of like

746
00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,360
he's got to wake up in the morning and

747
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:35,520
you go okay some people on the internet

748
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,520
are going to say these flying saucers

749
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,520
are models made out of trash cans and i

750
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,279
gotta defend that they're not

751
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,600
you know like what a pathetic pitiful

752
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,600
existence you gotta lead this guy

753
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,440
every day's gotta get up and defend

754
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:49,679
these hokey ass pictures

755
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:52,640
and say they're real spaceships it just

756
00:26:55,110 --> 00:26:53,120
i mean

757
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:55,120
you have to the type of mind and weak

758
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,960
mind you have to have to look at those

759
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:58,799
pictures and go yep

760
00:27:02,070 --> 00:27:00,720
he's telling truth he's objective by

761
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,080
playing it and they took him down her

762
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,679
space and he took pictures too

763
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:05,679
and and he communicates with them and

764
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:07,600
now he can create palladians

765
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:11,039
you have to be out of your mind yeah

766
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:13,279
yeah but i think a lot of it like i have

767
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,159
a friend that was in

768
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:15,919
scientology for years and years and

769
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:18,320
years and then he got to the end of it

770
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,080
and he quit and

771
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,000
and he said he almost didn't quit though

772
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:24,240
because he spent like a hundred thousand

773
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:25,200
dollars

774
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:28,480
on scientology across a house yeah he

775
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:29,440
could have bought a house could have

776
00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,720
bought a couple corvettes could have

777
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:31,919
bought a lot of things

778
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,240
instead he bought some [\h__\h] you know

779
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:38,399
so i think that he get he said that he

780
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:40,000
was so into it that

781
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,840
you can't walk away after a while you're

782
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,440
just too invested

783
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:44,960
you know what do you know what my my

784
00:27:49,669 --> 00:27:46,960
yeah you're invested and my friend

785
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:49,679
jerry who i've had on my show calls it

786
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,240
fomo

787
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,000
the fear of missing out and the fear of

788
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,679
not belonging he's like

789
00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:55,039
you keep going because you don't want to

790
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:56,799
miss something that you think you

791
00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,799
they that's why they put it in these

792
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:00,559
tiered levels because it's like

793
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:03,120
well don't leave now you're almost at

794
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,000
the next level

795
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,480
where da da da you've got fear of

796
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:08,240
missing out

797
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,840
yeah what did the other people get

798
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,840
enlightened and and you just had one

799
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:13,120
more level to go

800
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,799
darn it and and vishnu would come and

801
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,640
you know tell you all the secrets it's

802
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,559
just like these ascension scams that

803
00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:22,000
corey good and david wilcock keep

804
00:28:25,029 --> 00:28:22,720
running

805
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,039
like come visit my ascension course not

806
00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:26,640
one person to send it yet

807
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:30,000
for 333. hey i have a

808
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:33,039
one of my ex hosts that did secret door

809
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,320
podcast with me

810
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,240
and sheila she didn't last very long

811
00:28:39,909 --> 00:28:38,240
because she was too woo for me but she's

812
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:39,919
she does that ascension stuff where she

813
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,640
thinks september 29th is the judgment

814
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:43,679
day and

815
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,080
the the that there's all these ascended

816
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:48,559
masters watching us it's the final show

817
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:49,039
and

818
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,159
push the date back or come up with new

819
00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,960
bullshittery right well what i think

820
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,080
what she'll come

821
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,720
with is that it didn't solidly happen it

822
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:05,600
shifted this

823
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,039
they'll come up with some way that it

824
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:09,360
shifted it did happen but you just can't

825
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:11,200
see it and only she can feel it now she

826
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:12,000
has to go to another

827
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,360
level of light they'll come up with

828
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:15,520
something or alternate timeline

829
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:20,080
yeah or yeah and it just gets ridiculous

830
00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:21,840
because it was to the point where

831
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:24,480
she can't be around people like me

832
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,279
because

833
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,360
my energy is so low i'm of the dark

834
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,960
because they're separate the dark and

835
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:30,399
the light separating and she's a light

836
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:30,880
worker

837
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:33,039
and i'm people i guess are dark because

838
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,240
we're critical

839
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,480
and if she has to be around me she has

840
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,640
to use her energy to clear my darkness

841
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,000
and she just doesn't have time for that

842
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:43,200
and i was like go away yeah

843
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:45,039
melissa i'm sorry i don't think i don't

844
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,480
think we could be friends

845
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,320
because i don't have the energy to

846
00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:50,000
constantly clear your darkness

847
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,159
every time we talk i know i was like you

848
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:54,720
don't have to clear anything

849
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:57,039
i was like you i'm like and you know

850
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:58,240
nobody ever mentions

851
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,640
that a lot of these people have bipolar

852
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:02,880
personality disorders hysteria like they

853
00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:04,399
have mental health issues and they're

854
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,679
they're covering it up

855
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:07,440
and they're going into these trance

856
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,960
states and they're doing this stuff for

857
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,799
weeks at a time because they're bipolar

858
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,840
or something like that

859
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,120
not because they're talking to

860
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:15,360
pleiadians yeah i definitely think that

861
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,799
there's a lot of mental illness that

862
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:18,880
goes on with a lot of these people and

863
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:21,200
that some of these grifters and con

864
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:22,240
artists really do

865
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,360
actively pursue people that have issues

866
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:28,000
um that have mental issues you know

867
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,600
because they're easy marks

868
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,600
and they're they're easier to turn i

869
00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:33,120
think i don't i don't know

870
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,600
but it seems like a lot of them prey on

871
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,679
a lot of them prey on i've heard from

872
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,440
many people that are sort of in with

873
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:41,279
some of those con artists or were at one

874
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,960
time that they prey on people that are

875
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:45,120
like on disability checks

876
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:47,760
constant constantly they love people on

877
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:49,200
disability checks because they can get

878
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:50,480
they know they could get a few hundred

879
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:52,399
out of that person every month

880
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:55,679
yeah and i mean i think

881
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:57,840
that it's a it's a bit of a dance you

882
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,080
you they can't prey on people

883
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,240
who are strong so they have to go for

884
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:05,679
people who they'll go for people who

885
00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:07,120
you know are weak or always have a

886
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:08,880
problem or they need to be fixed they

887
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,840
need to ascend

888
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:11,440
they're always looking it's not that

889
00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:12,880
they're looking to get stronger or build

890
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,080
a skill that they have

891
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,840
they're actually they think their lack

892
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,360
of and they're going to them for this

893
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:19,039
spiritual reason to help

894
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,279
fill them up and make them better and

895
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:23,760
and it's like it's like codependency cr

896
00:31:27,509 --> 00:31:26,960
like crazy city yeah i think that i

897
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:27,519
gotta

898
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:30,080
i'm gonna share this other letter that

899
00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:32,000
michael horn sent me because he

900
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,480
he [\h__\h] about both of us so i thought

901
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:35,679
hey uh

902
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,799
oh he [\h__\h] about me too oh yeah

903
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:41,039
we're gonna make this public i haven't

904
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:42,080
read it

905
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,559
yeah so we're gonna make this public so

906
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,320
that uh it's just

907
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:48,399
on record this is the kind of harassing

908
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,559
[\h__\h] that this guy spends his time doing

909
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,480
because he's a jerk off and by the way

910
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:54,960
michael horn you can suck a pleiadian

911
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,440
dick

912
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,600
for all i care you really can you

913
00:32:02,789 --> 00:31:58,880
pathetic [\h__\h]

914
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,799
idiot uh all right let's share this

915
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:05,120
okay so i don't know uh somebody posted

916
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:06,320
to medium i don't know what he's talking

917
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,440
about here he says

918
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,440
i i want to thank you for posting or

919
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,120
medium that would be you right

920
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,039
that's where i posted the article yep

921
00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:15,120
okay so that anyone interested outside

922
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,840
of your little

923
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,600
cultic he called he says you have a

924
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:19,919
cultic circle it's the cult

925
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:22,240
it's the cult of melissa yes it's just

926
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,279
me

927
00:32:28,310 --> 00:32:26,080
myself and i i get to worship at the

928
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:28,320
feet of melissa in her cult

929
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:34,149
can actually have access to the truth

930
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:36,080
and then he gives me a link

931
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:39,519
okay the tear-drenched pity party victim

932
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:40,320
miss dawn

933
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,120
and the cowardly hiding behind dark

934
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,200
spectacles mr cambion

935
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:47,440
two whining amateurs who are now stuck

936
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:49,360
to court like the proverbial

937
00:32:52,950 --> 00:32:52,559
politically incorrect tar baby neither

938
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,960
of you

939
00:32:55,990 --> 00:32:54,880
know anything about the evidence in

940
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,000
literally decades

941
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,399
of investigation research by numerous

942
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,080
real investigators

943
00:33:03,669 --> 00:33:02,159
like a child molesting investigator

944
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,679
wendell stephens

945
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:05,760
and yet you still want to spew

946
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:06,720
defamation

947
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:09,039
it's listen michael warren stop saying

948
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:10,000
that i'm defaming

949
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,679
michael moore or stop saying that i'm

950
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:13,279
defaming wendell stevens

951
00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,120
when i say he was a convicted pedophile

952
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,720
that's a factually correct statement

953
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:18,399
that can be proven with documents and

954
00:33:21,350 --> 00:33:18,960
court

955
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,360
evidence and we did that in this book

956
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,200
since neither of you have any character

957
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,960
i know that isn't exactly high on your

958
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,240
list of priorities

959
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,799
for millennial mush minds and angry

960
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:30,159
immature wannabes

961
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:32,320
but hey that's life i'm not a

962
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:33,600
millionaire by the way

963
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,360
yeah me neither i yeah i'm a little

964
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,880
older than that too bad

965
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,120
miss dawn didn't take my advice and

966
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,720
interview me

967
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,559
just like it's too bad that cambium

968
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:44,799
missed the opportunity to debate me with

969
00:33:49,830 --> 00:33:47,760
an impartial moderator

970
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:49,840
we both offered him to come and debate

971
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,760
cal i put it on that article he's

972
00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:52,880
obviously seen it

973
00:33:56,950 --> 00:33:55,039
he can come and make any time he wants

974
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:56,960
he's avoiding

975
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,200
debating cal so he's obviously uh yeah

976
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,960
well cacao will recommend you [\h__\h]

977
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:02,559
with actual facts and evidence and

978
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:04,240
provable statements and he'll be left

979
00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:05,200
with his [\h__\h]

980
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:08,240
fake ufo models hanging from trees

981
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:11,679
and uh okay let's see as for debating

982
00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:12,159
corf

983
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,000
again i suggest you actually read all

984
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:16,079
the links in that article the poor guy

985
00:34:19,750 --> 00:34:17,280
is just a

986
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,760
pathological liar and at the moment he'd

987
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,599
have to substantiate his

988
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:24,320
claims or answer my questions he'd just

989
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,280
fold again

990
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,720
and call me mikey as the weak minded

991
00:34:33,909 --> 00:34:30,879
disrespectful mrs dawn mimics

992
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:33,919
in enamored

993
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,040
obedience to her cult master oh so now

994
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,760
you're cal is my cult master all right i

995
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:42,079
gotta tell kill that

996
00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:45,040
that's that girl yeah poor girl she

997
00:34:50,069 --> 00:34:45,839
labels

998
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,079
one of billy myers still irrep irrefute

999
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:53,040
producible ufo photos a hoax based on

1000
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:54,320
her

1001
00:35:02,550 --> 00:34:58,400
master

1002
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:02,560
need i say it again anyway you fell for

1003
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:03,280
his sex

1004
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,680
cult child molester pleiadian human

1005
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:07,680
hybrid mumbo jumbo

1006
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,760
uh just for the record uh i don't know

1007
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:13,440
whether it's a sex cult or not can be

1008
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,760
argued but the child molester part of it

1009
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,760
is that wendell stevens was a convicted

1010
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:19,680
child molester and by the way

1011
00:35:24,150 --> 00:35:22,160
[\h__\h] you michael horn yes he was and we

1012
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:24,160
have the court documents you [\h__\h] so

1013
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,680
you're just straight lying to people

1014
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:27,200
pretending that we're making [\h__\h] up

1015
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:28,160
about the guy

1016
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:31,200
well lee valley lee veltman wants a

1017
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:34,240
t-shirt for our cult by the way

1018
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:37,280
pleiadian human hybrid is is something

1019
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,960
that he's been telling his cult members

1020
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,920
for years

1021
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,079
that he impregnated this young girl and

1022
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,359
they had a pleiadian human hybrid baby

1023
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,359
uh will they ever submit it to any kind

1024
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:49,520
of dna test to prove those claims

1025
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,400
[\h__\h] no when it dawns on you that it's

1026
00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:54,240
all garbage it'll be too late

1027
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,160
you'll be forever associated and

1028
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:58,400
identified with crazy cow corf

1029
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:01,520
conspiracies you've been used because of

1030
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:02,160
your own

1031
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:06,079
misguided ambitions and then he says

1032
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:13,910
after i just harassed you and you know

1033
00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:16,560
see i wouldn't have that man solely on

1034
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,280
my show

1035
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:20,640
he's um i mean he's he's backing up a

1036
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,200
cult

1037
00:36:27,589 --> 00:36:24,720
and he's um he's that the whole email is

1038
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:27,599
nothing but a pile of projections so

1039
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,119
um you know if if cal's our cult master

1040
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,760
i mean i'm i'd be that that's pretty

1041
00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,200
impressive considering that

1042
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:38,079
why he leads his own life and he just

1043
00:36:40,950 --> 00:36:39,200
came on my show

1044
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:40,960
i don't know i there wasn't really an

1045
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,640
eight step to

1046
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:44,640
process that they normally take he's

1047
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:45,760
pretty he's pretty good

1048
00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:48,240
because yeah he's a good cult master

1049
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:48,960
yeah yeah

1050
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:51,040
he's such a good coach i didn't even

1051
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,640
know i was joining the school

1052
00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:55,040
i just guess i did they're like wow

1053
00:36:57,910 --> 00:36:56,480
that's good i didn't even know we had

1054
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:57,920
one

1055
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,200
yeah so you know i think the thing that

1056
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:03,040
mikey horn gets pissed off about is that

1057
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,560
he can't really refute

1058
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,640
anything that i say so he's just got to

1059
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:09,760
attack me personally oh and by the way

1060
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,240
michael horn you [\h__\h] i had a brain

1061
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,320
aneurysm i have a third

1062
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,160
it's called third nerve palsy you

1063
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:18,480
[\h__\h] i have a paralyzed eye

1064
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:20,720
that's why i'm behind sunglasses you

1065
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:21,680
[\h__\h]

1066
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,640
so basically you and your light and love

1067
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:26,800
[\h__\h] ufo cult right you guys are

1068
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:27,520
light in love

1069
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,920
you're making fun of someone's physical

1070
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:30,960
disability

1071
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:33,119
in an email because you're [\h__\h]

1072
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,160
stupid

1073
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,079
and you're claiming that somebody was

1074
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,680
sexually abused and that's why they

1075
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:39,359
don't like your ufo call

1076
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:43,760
how light and love of you [\h__\h] mikey

1077
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:45,680
but you guys your book is available on

1078
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,040
amazon so maybe he should

1079
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,680
oh yeah i forgot we should listen uh if

1080
00:37:51,990 --> 00:37:51,280
anybody's really interested in this

1081
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,000
stuff

1082
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:54,400
and the and the [\h__\h] conspiracy that

1083
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:55,200
the

1084
00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:58,240
cult

1085
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:01,520
tried to perpetrate uh there is a book

1086
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:02,240
now

1087
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:04,960
uh let me see here let me get to my

1088
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,520
twitter

1089
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,400
and we'll share that oh wait a minute

1090
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,800
yeah so

1091
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:12,320
i'm sorry here friends you should have

1092
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:14,000
had this queued up

1093
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,200
cal just sent this to me to uh now

1094
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:19,520
available on amazon

1095
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,680
i don't know did that share or did it oh

1096
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:23,359
no it doesn't

1097
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:25,839
so let me uh i'll share it from the

1098
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:39,510
the cia's and and the book is called the

1099
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:41,119
cia's conspiracy

1100
00:38:44,790 --> 00:38:43,839
against wendell stephens ufology or

1101
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:44,800
euphology

1102
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:46,560
and the books really by calculus i had a

1103
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,160
very very small part of it

1104
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:50,720
uh but this book is the definitive

1105
00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:53,200
expose about the cia's conspiracy

1106
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:54,640
against former lieutenant colonel

1107
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:56,400
wendell stevens and the claims that the

1108
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:57,119
cia

1109
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,480
framed wendell stevens for several

1110
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,560
counts of felony child molestation to

1111
00:39:06,790 --> 00:39:04,640
which stevens voluntarily pled guilty

1112
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,800
the stunning book proves the truth about

1113
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,880
the conspiracy rumors and exposes the

1114
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,040
guilty parties using never before

1115
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:12,960
published criminal case files

1116
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:15,119
forensics and archival material found

1117
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:16,240
nowhere else

1118
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:19,359
the purpose of each volume of ufo or eu

1119
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,079
fooligy

1120
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,200
is to definitively solve a specific case

1121
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:24,960
and bring full closure this book

1122
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,119
is fully sourced contains dozens of

1123
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:28,800
criminal case files from the

1124
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:31,280
wendell stevens court files which are

1125
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:32,160
not available

1126
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:34,960
online as this book goes to the press

1127
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,440
the book

1128
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,280
also exposes the harassment of stephen

1129
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,440
cambion and kalkorf by the billy meyer

1130
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,160
ufo sex cult and one of its spokesman

1131
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:44,240
mikey horn oh what are we sharing here

1132
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:45,920
that's my kids stuff

1133
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:49,680
yeah there we go uh yes well

1134
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,200
cult leader billy meyer okay so mikey

1135
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,119
horn sex cult leader billy meyer

1136
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:57,200
impregnated one of his cult followers

1137
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,720
and abandoned his wife

1138
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,720
he and his believers claim a pleiadian

1139
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,640
hybrid child has been produced the book

1140
00:40:08,710 --> 00:40:04,800
shows how a simple dna test will

1141
00:40:10,950 --> 00:40:08,720
prove otherwise and how no one will

1142
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,960
and how one will never materialize

1143
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,960
proving pleiadian anything

1144
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,720
fully sourced and dozens of newly

1145
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:16,000
released documents

1146
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,160
so once again [\h__\h] you michael horn

1147
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,560
[\h__\h] you right in your beady little eyes

1148
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:24,000
because there's the book

1149
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,839
and all of this [\h__\h] about wendell

1150
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,119
stevens is in the book

1151
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,520
every court document from the cases is

1152
00:40:33,190 --> 00:40:30,400
in the book

1153
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:33,200
so when you say i'm defaming the guy

1154
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:34,240
you're wrong

1155
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,560
you're lying to people i'm not defaming

1156
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,480
anyone i'm

1157
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:41,359
basically i'm making factual statements

1158
00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:42,880
about the man

1159
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:44,720
so there we have it now the book is

1160
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:47,359
available as of today actually

1161
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,119
so as of today i'm a published author

1162
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,000
imagine that congratulations

1163
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,040
yeah i don't know it was that easy uh

1164
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,200
yeah i didn't i did very little of that

1165
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,359
i i think i wrote 10 pages

1166
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:02,000
and i i just but i think that kalkwarf

1167
00:41:05,589 --> 00:41:02,720
is like no

1168
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,599
uh it's because of you that all of this

1169
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,440
conspiracy stuff started up again

1170
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,359
because they did that back in the day

1171
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,680
when it happened and now that people are

1172
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:13,680
discovering that that's the case they're

1173
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,880
starting up this fake conspiracy the cia

1174
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:18,400
framed him because he was getting too

1175
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:20,000
close to the truth about billy

1176
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:23,040
meyer and his trash can spaceships

1177
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:26,960
it's ridiculous right yeah yeah

1178
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,480
you know i could like i said in the 70s

1179
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,240
or whenever he first started doing this

1180
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:34,160
i could see how people would be a little

1181
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,480
bit

1182
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:37,200
duped at the time but if you can sit

1183
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,760
today

1184
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,760
with all the technology and look back

1185
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,839
and look at those pictures and think yep

1186
00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,680
that's real there's just something wrong

1187
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:45,599
with you there's like

1188
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,599
you have no cognitive thinking people

1189
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,520
are not taught to be highly critical

1190
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:52,720
they're taught to want

1191
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,079
fantasies i guess yeah i see it

1192
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,640
i i think i think it's just that the

1193
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,920
hunger

1194
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:01,680
for these things to be true with some

1195
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,440
people is so strong that they're willing

1196
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,119
to put aside their critical thinking and

1197
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:06,720
their discernment and just believe some

1198
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,839
of these idiots and

1199
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:09,920
even you know like i have a friend that

1200
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:12,160
will come to me every once in a while

1201
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,720
and then i go no uh that guy that you're

1202
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:15,440
talking about

1203
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:17,680
was fake and he's like what do you mean

1204
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:18,720
i'm like well

1205
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:20,240
he didn't go to school where he said he

1206
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:21,760
went look i checked

1207
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,880
that guy's a fraud he's not a doctor he

1208
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:26,319
still won't believe me

1209
00:42:30,230 --> 00:42:28,079
he will not believe me he'd be like well

1210
00:42:32,470 --> 00:42:30,240
he talks very intelligently

1211
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,480
okay but he's still a fake doctor or

1212
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,920
whatever you know

1213
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,440
they just won't set aside their they

1214
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,040
won't set aside

1215
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,480
uh their willingness to believe these oh

1216
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,079
our cult leaders in the chat

1217
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,200
here he is cal

1218
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:50,000
our cult leader oh and listen to this

1219
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,160
semjaza is the name of

1220
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,480
satan's right hand angel meyer knew what

1221
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,480
he was doing

1222
00:43:03,109 --> 00:42:59,520
yeah isn't it samyazi is the is is his

1223
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,119
i don't know yeah i don't know so

1224
00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:05,760
yeah the cult leader kalkorf is in the

1225
00:43:08,550 --> 00:43:07,200
live chat

1226
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,560
i thought i thought he'd be too busy

1227
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:10,319
running a cult to go north

1228
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,359
into my live chat he's

1229
00:43:17,109 --> 00:43:15,599
he's he's spying on us he's he's trying

1230
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:17,119
to figure out how to do the next level

1231
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:18,319
of the cult

1232
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:20,079
yeah how to manipulate us to further

1233
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:23,200
help his uh evil cold agenda

1234
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:25,040
yeah some of this stuff is ridiculous i

1235
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,640
wanted to ask you about

1236
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,480
so what are some of the besides ufo

1237
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,000
cults what are some of the other cults

1238
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:32,160
that you're covering on your channel

1239
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:34,640
well one that i just did was interesting

1240
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,280
um

1241
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,960
someone had mentioned it to me it was

1242
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:38,640
called the yellow deli cult

1243
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:41,839
and they're a string of sandwiches

1244
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,880
so i'm like i i put it out of my mind

1245
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,480
right i was like hey whatever i'll cover

1246
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:48,240
it one day and then i was driving down

1247
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:49,200
around town

1248
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,440
and i had um there was this place called

1249
00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:55,920
common grounds and it had been there for

1250
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:57,680
a while they built it up like a nice

1251
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,760
rustic old building and i looked in the

1252
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:01,440
sign had changed and i realized that it

1253
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,960
was one of these yellow delis and had

1254
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,000
been in my town

1255
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,160
unbeknownst to me it was a cult and it

1256
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:08,319
and i was like okay i'm

1257
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,480
definitely covering this now and it's

1258
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:11,920
it's disturbing

1259
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,960
but it's like that they can do this they

1260
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:16,240
get the

1261
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:19,680
that's the cash flow and they get people

1262
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,560
to come in

1263
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,640
and they give up all their goods they

1264
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:24,880
give up all their stuff i'm assuming to

1265
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,599
them

1266
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:27,760
and then they basically are working for

1267
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,640
nothing

1268
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,480
and it's all religious so they either

1269
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:32,800
work in this yellow deli

1270
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,560
restaurant or they'll work in like a

1271
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:36,560
farm that supplies all the food and they

1272
00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,079
have to give up all their stuff

1273
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:40,640
and it's crazy religious and there's a

1274
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:41,359
lot of

1275
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:44,240
accusations of well first of all they're

1276
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:44,640
just

1277
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,160
they are breaking rule like labor rules

1278
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,319
like big time but they can't just make

1279
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,400
people work for no money all day

1280
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:55,040
and there's there's lots of child abuse

1281
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:56,400
child sexual abuse

1282
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:58,640
and a whole bunch of accusations against

1283
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:01,040
this organization and i was just shocked

1284
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,240
that we have one

1285
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,400
right here in my town and they have a

1286
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,640
farm probably about 20 minutes away

1287
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,119
that they use to supply all the goods

1288
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:11,359
for the restaurant i was like

1289
00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:14,560
wow but it it it's just

1290
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,200
it's weird and so the men dress like

1291
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,000
hippies but

1292
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,319
uh apparently the women dress like a lot

1293
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,240
of like like a how to ride or long

1294
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:25,280
skirts or something like that and i've

1295
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,880
actually been in there a couple times

1296
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,119
having a cup of coffee and i was like

1297
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:30,720
i'm never going there again and

1298
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,319
supporting that i had no idea

1299
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:36,960
it was sitting on my towel it was

1300
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,880
sitting in my town all along and i'd

1301
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:40,480
heard some when they were building that

1302
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:42,079
it was a collective people just kept

1303
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:42,960
using the word

1304
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,359
collective they didn't use the word cult

1305
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,079
but

1306
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,119
cults are collective so um

1307
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,839
but that's not it there's and there's a

1308
00:45:55,510 --> 00:45:52,640
they try to

1309
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:55,520
lure in a lot of young men too so i

1310
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:56,640
don't know what's going on but

1311
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:58,160
like a lot of young men who are

1312
00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:00,000
backpacking and have no place to

1313
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,760
go so they say well you can come and

1314
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,839
stay here and work for us and we'll feed

1315
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,520
you and house you and

1316
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,680
then they get them in and then they just

1317
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:09,440
keep indoctrinating them so they never

1318
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:10,240
leave

1319
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,920
and then people will have children in

1320
00:46:15,109 --> 00:46:13,440
that church and there's a lot of child

1321
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,119
abuse really strict stuff

1322
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:18,240
i read an article where like someone was

1323
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,599
in the cult and noticed

1324
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,440
that every time one of the kids had to

1325
00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:23,040
go to the bathroom adults went with them

1326
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:24,240
and that there was a whip in the

1327
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:24,960
bathroom

1328
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:27,839
so there's a lot of strange accusations

1329
00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:28,319
yeah

1330
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,800
it's it's not a good it's it it's not

1331
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,480
that wholesome religious

1332
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:34,400
happy thing that they present as it's

1333
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:36,560
actually quite abusive

1334
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,190
yeah so and yeah and i guess a lot of

1335
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,640
people will go in there and not even

1336
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,640
realize that you're supporting a cult

1337
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:50,079
basically it's very like medieval

1338
00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,520
and rustic and a lot of them are

1339
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,520
charming or they'll have an old

1340
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:55,839
rustic victorian house feel they're very

1341
00:47:00,309 --> 00:46:57,359
warm and inviting

1342
00:47:00,950 --> 00:47:00,319
it's very deceptive wow well that's

1343
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:00,960
really

1344
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,280
these cults seem to be experts at using

1345
00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:04,640
psychology against

1346
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,640
their intended victims you know i've

1347
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:08,319
noticed that about many of them

1348
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:09,920
with the some of the tactics they use

1349
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:12,240
you mentioned sleep deprivation

1350
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,160
uh i'm sure a lot of them do that make

1351
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,079
you work for 16 hours a day you're too

1352
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,960
tired to think critically

1353
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:21,119
and when they heart like if they don't

1354
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,319
give you lots of food and they

1355
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:24,079
malnourish you they put you on an

1356
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:25,359
extreme diet

1357
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:28,240
then you your thinking process you can't

1358
00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:28,640
think

1359
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,920
i mean it's the same thing they did in

1360
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:32,240
concentration camps like you can't think

1361
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,119
proper to

1362
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:34,720
and you just go with it and then they

1363
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,119
they'll combine it with like um

1364
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,440
chanting or meditation well that puts

1365
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:41,359
your mind in an even more vulnerable

1366
00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:43,040
state almost like like you

1367
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,800
would when you're daydreaming or your

1368
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,200
child and i mean you're in that state

1369
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,880
when you're watching tv a lot of times

1370
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,640
so you're highly suggestible so they get

1371
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,720
you in that highly suggestible state

1372
00:47:56,230 --> 00:47:54,800
you haven't you're not eating properly

1373
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:56,240
they can sleep deprive you

1374
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,000
and they can deprive you of sleep by

1375
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,400
also over stimulating you like positive

1376
00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:02,480
reinforcement is good to a point

1377
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:05,839
and a lot of them will do like overkill

1378
00:48:09,990 --> 00:48:07,280
positive reinforcement

1379
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,000
to make you feel loved mom but they'll

1380
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:12,160
be like you're so amazing but it also is

1381
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:12,720
like over

1382
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:15,839
stimulating you all the time it's like

1383
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:17,680
you never get anything like that yeah

1384
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:19,359
yeah and so

1385
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:22,480
eventually um once i mean if you've

1386
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,640
given up all your stuff all your money

1387
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:26,240
all your clothes all your everything

1388
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,200
you're in there

1389
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,880
now you're relying on them for shelter

1390
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,640
and food and minimal food

1391
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:32,640
and love and then they'll start being

1392
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:34,079
abusive and they'll take it away

1393
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,920
and then they'll go back and forth and

1394
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,440
and you'll just keep going then they'll

1395
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:39,520
turn you against your family

1396
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:41,920
and then there might be drugs involved

1397
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,720
who knows

1398
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,400
and they keep escalating it to the point

1399
00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:45,839
where you're completely trapped and

1400
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,960
convinced that

1401
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,200
that you that's what you need and it

1402
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,880
once you're past a certain point it's

1403
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:52,800
hard to get away

1404
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:54,319
yeah and there seems to with most of

1405
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:56,319
these cults to be some kind of sexual

1406
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,079
weirdness going on like

1407
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:00,000
i was fascinated with the david koresh

1408
00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:01,680
thing because david korash basically

1409
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,000
told

1410
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,359
his male followers that had wives uh

1411
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,800
god told me that you can't bang your

1412
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,280
wife anymore but i can

1413
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:11,440
and they went along with it and they

1414
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,839
went along with it like the craziness

1415
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:15,920
to go on when you're thinking you're

1416
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:18,000
thinking that's so crazy right but

1417
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:20,160
if they if they if they had just showed

1418
00:49:23,109 --> 00:49:21,680
up with their wives the first time

1419
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:23,119
and he said i'm going to bang your wife

1420
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:24,160
you're not going to they would have went

1421
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:26,000
no

1422
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:31,920
probably steps six or seven like

1423
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:34,240
it's it's like being in a pot slowly

1424
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,359
boiling alive

1425
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:37,839
and by the time they're there they're

1426
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,480
they are

1427
00:49:42,230 --> 00:49:41,520
so dependent on the cult and all the

1428
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:42,240
people around

1429
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,680
it's their whole life it's all their

1430
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:45,040
relationships now they're not going to

1431
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:46,240
say no

1432
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,280
they're going to be like um oh okay um

1433
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,839
like they're brilliant my wife and i

1434
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,839
can't no more but i guess you can

1435
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:56,000
and he had david crash had children with

1436
00:49:59,750 --> 00:49:56,960
a bunch of these

1437
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,760
other guys wives yeah it's like it's

1438
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:01,440
like jonestown's people are like well

1439
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:02,800
why didn't there was only a couple

1440
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:04,240
people with guns why didn't they do

1441
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:05,280
anything i'm like well

1442
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,640
they're all the way out middle of the

1443
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:08,800
jungle they hardly have any food they've

1444
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:10,000
given up everything

1445
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,440
and there's two people standing with

1446
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:13,119
guns and they don't even know probably

1447
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:13,839
how to get

1448
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:16,240
out to where the closest town is so

1449
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:17,119
they're scared

1450
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,800
yeah that was horrific and some people

1451
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,400
didn't refuse to drink the kool-aid

1452
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:22,480
literally and went for a run through the

1453
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,960
jungle you know yeah people chasing them

1454
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,160
and like what a crazy

1455
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:28,480
story that is you know it's amazing they

1456
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,440
survived

1457
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:31,920
well that's how that's how some a lot of

1458
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:33,359
these cults end up especially the

1459
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,960
doomsday variety because

1460
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:37,200
eventually doomsday has got to come you

1461
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:39,280
know oh yeah oh well

1462
00:50:42,309 --> 00:50:40,960
no go ahead sorry i was going to say the

1463
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:42,319
other crazy one

1464
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,559
that i thought about what kind of mind

1465
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,319
control were they using was this

1466
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:47,839
heaven's gate cult

1467
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,480
because they convinced people men to

1468
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,400
literally get themselves castrated

1469
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,640
and a lot of them most of them signed up

1470
00:50:59,670 --> 00:50:56,400
for that

1471
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:59,680
that's great that is insane and so

1472
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,640
they're

1473
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,880
i mean the people that are coming to the

1474
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,839
plate at this

1475
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,760
are not well to begin with they usually

1476
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,920
have really low self-esteem to begin

1477
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:08,720
with

1478
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:11,920
so my guess is over time they must have

1479
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:13,200
it must have been somewhere in the

1480
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:15,119
teachings or somewhere that they would

1481
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,359
be utterly holy and be able to transcend

1482
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:18,880
or do something like this was part of

1483
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:20,160
the process

1484
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,720
that that's the only i mean why like but

1485
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,200
again from an outsider looking is like

1486
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:27,680
you want me to cut my dick off excuse me

1487
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:29,680
like i was all through this [\h__\h] until

1488
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,599
you told me how to cut my dick off

1489
00:51:35,829 --> 00:51:34,640
and once i heard listen once they got to

1490
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:35,839
the you're going to have to cut your

1491
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:36,800
dick off part

1492
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:39,599
i think i'd be like oh i don't care [\h__\h]

1493
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,079
this

1494
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,079
you know you're like i'm out of here

1495
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:44,319
yeah i think i'm going to keep my dick

1496
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:47,599
i'll see you later and the thing is is

1497
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,800
the other thing that i'll say about

1498
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,480
cults cultures it's not like they'll

1499
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,079
target the specific person

1500
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:54,720
to do that that i think they know people

1501
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,839
really well so

1502
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,440
you'll see that they won't abuse

1503
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:59,040
everybody else they'll get you in there

1504
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,960
and then they'll pick one specific

1505
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:03,440
male or one specific person and it won't

1506
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:05,280
just be the cult leader everybody will

1507
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:07,200
do stuff to him everybody will abuse

1508
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,920
that person

1509
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:10,720
everybody will be doing stuff i mean i

1510
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,040
covered one where they had him

1511
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:15,040
uh they had this young man in there and

1512
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,800
abused him so bad that they had him

1513
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:18,480
convinced to drink the

1514
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:21,119
call male cult leader semen that in

1515
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:22,800
orange juice and stuff

1516
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,079
it was disgusting it was

1517
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:28,640
it and and because that's another one

1518
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:29,760
yeah like it's

1519
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:32,000
really i'm very i'm a very open-minded

1520
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:33,760
person and i'm interested in

1521
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:36,480
in let's say alternate religious beliefs

1522
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:36,800
right

1523
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,800
i'll at least listen to everybody's

1524
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:40,800
ideas but as soon as you say

1525
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:42,160
excuse me you're gonna have to drink

1526
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,160
this jizz i think i

1527
00:52:49,510 --> 00:52:47,119
chipped the [\h__\h] out that listen anybody

1528
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:49,520
tells me from any religious organization

1529
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:51,520
they get to [\h__\h] my wife i have to cut

1530
00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:54,079
my dick off or have to drink jizz

1531
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:56,319
and i gotta check out i just gotta check

1532
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:57,440
out at that point and say

1533
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,710
and you know that what that's all about

1534
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,800
that's about and they a lot of the times

1535
00:53:07,349 --> 00:53:06,559
they do a lot of the abuse towards a lot

1536
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:07,359
of young men

1537
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:09,760
and women too but that stuff is about

1538
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,319
demasculating the other men so that this

1539
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:15,680
cult leader is he's the main he's the

1540
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:17,680
main dominant male it's like some sick

1541
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:20,880
psychotic thing so he has to um and

1542
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,839
starving men will will totally lower

1543
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,280
their testosterone and

1544
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,440
mess up their manhood as well so that's

1545
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:29,200
the next step to getting them there

1546
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,119
it'll mess up all your hormones and

1547
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:33,200
remind me to start eating better

1548
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,280
yeah well if you go into these cults

1549
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:39,520
they'll get you on like a 500 calorie

1550
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:40,160
diet

1551
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:41,839
especially if you're a young men and

1552
00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:43,599
they'll make you work like crazy and

1553
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,000
that's part of reducing you down

1554
00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:49,040
and taking out your virility and your

1555
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:51,280
ability to fight back

1556
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:54,640
yeah i saw i got to see i don't know if

1557
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:56,000
i would call it a cult but i would call

1558
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,040
it a commune

1559
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:59,119
where these uh a friend of mine got

1560
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:00,800
involved in and uh

1561
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:03,520
they worked from like sunup to sundown

1562
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,280
and then after sundown they would go

1563
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:07,040
into like this woodshed and build

1564
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,160
furniture to sell

1565
00:54:12,470 --> 00:54:10,800
at the local fairs for another three or

1566
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:12,480
four hours after working out in the

1567
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:13,760
field all day like

1568
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:17,040
i was there for two days

1569
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:19,119
to try to visit a friend and i i seen

1570
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:20,160
him you know

1571
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,880
like a half hour a day and uh eventually

1572
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:24,240
he got out but

1573
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:26,640
i was just shocked and amazed that all

1574
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:28,640
these and all of them were like

1575
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,880
to me they were doing all this willingly

1576
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,880
working these 16 hour days and giving

1577
00:54:36,230 --> 00:54:34,640
all their money to the group so that the

1578
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:36,240
group could build like a community

1579
00:54:40,309 --> 00:54:37,520
center next

1580
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:40,319
or a library and my friend stayed in

1581
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:41,920
this commune for years and it seemed

1582
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,640
like it never

1583
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,480
ended like they were supposed to be some

1584
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:45,839
point in which

1585
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:47,200
now you're not going to take all of our

1586
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,799
money because we have everything we need

1587
00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,319
here we'll just contribute

1588
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,480
a little bit every month but that point

1589
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,319
never came it was like they always had

1590
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,400
another project and reason for sucking

1591
00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,319
every dime out of everybody

1592
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:01,760
and every bit of work you know yeah

1593
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:05,040
well yeah you're pretty much

1594
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,079
you're you're a resource for them yeah

1595
00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:10,400
free labor i mean labor's not cheap you

1596
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,200
know

1597
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,920
and i mean they they offer you a lot of

1598
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,680
times they offer you the replacement of

1599
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,599
family or love or a missing relationship

1600
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:18,720
people are broken up

1601
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,319
they're in a bad place they'll offer you

1602
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:21,839
the replacement of that and

1603
00:55:26,069 --> 00:55:25,040
that's a trick because they you know

1604
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:26,079
they

1605
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:31,760
it's not that you're not like saying

1606
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,520
we're as kids we're expected to do

1607
00:55:36,150 --> 00:55:35,119
chores and certain things to teach us

1608
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:36,160
responsibility

1609
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,799
and and whatnot but it's not but it's

1610
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:40,799
not abusive it's not abnormal

1611
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:43,040
it's in balance it's healthy and these

1612
00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:44,559
people are getting you in there so they

1613
00:55:47,349 --> 00:55:45,520
can literally

1614
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:47,359
just use you as long as they can for

1615
00:55:53,589 --> 00:55:49,839
what they can and it's severe

1616
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,599
and yeah it's it's twisted

1617
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,680
and so they they they are not your

1618
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,319
family they replicate your family

1619
00:56:01,589 --> 00:56:00,319
family love it i don't know why people

1620
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,599
aren't creeped out by

1621
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:03,280
the level of affection that they give at

1622
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,680
first because it's not it's just weird

1623
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,760
i i've been in contact with some people

1624
00:56:12,789 --> 00:56:09,680
i've seen the love bombing yeah

1625
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:12,799
and it's crazy i i've i visited

1626
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:15,119
i visited what was for sure a cult once

1627
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:16,640
and they were all trying to hug me and

1628
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:17,440
[\h__\h]

1629
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:20,480
and i was just there out of personal uh

1630
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,839
you know like morbid curiosity like

1631
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:26,640
this group about and like they were all

1632
00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:28,880
trying to hug me and i mean like

1633
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:32,400
i did i thought later i realized that

1634
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,520
they purposefully

1635
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:36,000
sent like young attractive females to

1636
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,720
talk to me

1637
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:39,440
and try to hug me and stuff and i knew

1638
00:56:42,069 --> 00:56:40,559
right away like

1639
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:42,079
i told them all like i'm not a hugger

1640
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:44,720
please don't touch me you know

1641
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,880
but i seen other i see them doing that

1642
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,559
to other people that were new

1643
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:50,720
you know what i mean so like they

1644
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:51,599
definitely

1645
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:54,720
will use uh like young attractive

1646
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,359
females against males or they'll use

1647
00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:00,160
young attractive males against females

1648
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:01,440
to go and and

1649
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:04,319
you know get them interested one of the

1650
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:06,799
cults called that flirty fishing

1651
00:57:10,230 --> 00:57:09,760
oh there you go yeah it was that cult

1652
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:10,240
called

1653
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,839
it was like the children of god or

1654
00:57:17,430 --> 00:57:14,480
something like that yes children of god

1655
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:17,440
um i think joaquin phoenix family they

1656
00:57:21,750 --> 00:57:19,200
used to be part of it and they

1657
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,760
encouraged reading their doctrine they

1658
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:23,280
encouraged the children to have pretty

1659
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,599
much

1660
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,240
sexual relations with adults but they

1661
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,920
convince the children that it's love

1662
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,839
but they send young girls out these

1663
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,359
little young girls that they've

1664
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:33,200
over time trained to basically go out

1665
00:57:36,710 --> 00:57:34,960
and prostitute for the

1666
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,720
for the cult to go bring young men and

1667
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:38,079
have sex with them and get them in and

1668
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,960
they called it

1669
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,720
they and they tell little girls they

1670
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:41,920
teach them this and they called it

1671
00:57:46,710 --> 00:57:43,760
flirty fishing

1672
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,720
wow great it's really twisted yeah

1673
00:57:50,470 --> 00:57:48,160
that's definitely a way to uh

1674
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,480
to exploit somebody's weaknesses too

1675
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:52,240
like you know

1676
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:54,480
oh yeah you can get some young man who's

1677
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:57,280
like really insecure

1678
00:58:00,789 --> 00:58:00,079
yeah and men are stupid like you're like

1679
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:00,799
they're like

1680
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,400
we'll do anything for a pretty girl

1681
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:04,559
we're dumb as [\h__\h] we are dumb as [\h__\h]

1682
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,319
you know yeah and then even like after

1683
00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:10,240
i just had some quick involvement with

1684
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:11,680
this group and then after that

1685
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:14,799
they basically like uh i

1686
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,880
ran into one of the young attractive

1687
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:18,480
females that was a member of this group

1688
00:58:22,309 --> 00:58:19,119
who kept

1689
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:22,319
trying to reel me back you know come to

1690
00:58:25,510 --> 00:58:23,440
a meeting

1691
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,520
it's it's just such a great group of

1692
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,119
people and you would fit right

1693
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:30,079
in and you know and uh i was like uh no

1694
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:31,440
thank you

1695
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,559
hot as the girl was she wasn't that hot

1696
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:39,280
you're like try again lady yeah and

1697
00:58:42,549 --> 00:58:40,400
we're getting involved

1698
00:58:43,750 --> 00:58:42,559
yeah but this is the tactics it's good

1699
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,760
that we could talk about some of the

1700
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,839
tactics that they use like this openly

1701
00:58:49,950 --> 00:58:47,440
because

1702
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:49,960
well i have a show coming out i have a

1703
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,680
hypnotherapist

1704
00:58:54,789 --> 00:58:53,440
stage hypnotist and he does like

1705
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,799
neuro-linguistic

1706
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,559
programming he's a professional at

1707
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,559
understanding that and

1708
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,240
the beginning of october it's coming out

1709
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,079
and he's going to go through the first

1710
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:04,160
that and eight steps and how they get

1711
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,440
you in and what kind of

1712
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,599
individual they're targeting and i'm

1713
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,200
going to say it could be any of us at

1714
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,720
any point

1715
00:59:13,829 --> 00:59:12,079
yeah probably people think they're

1716
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,839
psychological exactly

1717
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:16,079
and and we could all be there at any

1718
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:16,960
point so

1719
00:59:20,470 --> 00:59:18,880
when no one's immune to it that's why

1720
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,480
he's coming on and talking about how

1721
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:22,000
they do it

1722
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,160
and how they can get control of your

1723
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,880
mind that's a public service definitely

1724
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,640
yeah i've seen a lot of these tactics

1725
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:30,720
used over and over and over again

1726
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:33,440
and it seems to me that they all use not

1727
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:33,839
this

1728
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:36,559
not exactly the same but similar tactics

1729
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:37,040
you know

1730
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:40,480
the love bombing the uh the manipulation

1731
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:41,040
by

1732
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:46,079
manipulate people

1733
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,520
and and uh you know uh the dissension

1734
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:52,160
of of critical thinking is definitely

1735
00:59:54,549 --> 00:59:52,880
one of them

1736
00:59:56,470 --> 00:59:54,559
you know like you gotta you just have to

1737
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:56,480
have faith you have to have faith in the

1738
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:57,359
leader

1739
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,040
yes they get you to suspend your belief

1740
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,280
you know or suspend your criticism and

1741
01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:04,559
just believe

1742
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:08,079
um and that's part of mind control so i

1743
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,640
think

1744
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,799
they have they don't love bomb you like

1745
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,319
crazy right away but they are

1746
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:14,400
they do a lot of nice stuff they'll be

1747
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:15,680
nice to you and

1748
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,960
pleasant and try to get you in there

1749
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:20,799
and then they'll love bomb you once

1750
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:22,720
you're in there and then they'll start

1751
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,960
the mind control process

1752
01:00:28,549 --> 01:00:26,559
and that's there's a whole bunch of

1753
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,559
different stages within the mind control

1754
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,559
process alone

1755
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:32,400
and and sex and food and all that stuff

1756
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,270
wow lee meltman says children of god

1757
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:42,000
and the family and the manson family

1758
01:00:44,710 --> 01:00:42,880
with the processed

1759
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,720
church is where it all crosses over to

1760
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:46,480
me

1761
01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:48,880
well i don't doubt that a lot of people

1762
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,760
during that time

1763
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:52,000
probably hopped from cult to cult like a

1764
01:00:55,109 --> 01:00:53,200
lot of these overlap

1765
01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:55,119
i i wouldn't doubt it if members were

1766
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,799
like i'm children of god no i'm going

1767
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:58,240
here no i'm going there

1768
01:01:02,069 --> 01:01:01,280
i know like people who were um in with

1769
01:01:04,390 --> 01:01:02,079
the manson

1770
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:04,400
family thing and did that um they were

1771
01:01:09,270 --> 01:01:06,079
involved with um

1772
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:09,280
you know um the loose the guy who

1773
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,960
created lucifer rising

1774
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:12,880
like they and and they would hop from

1775
01:01:18,789 --> 01:01:15,280
hollywood this and this and cults like

1776
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:18,799
that a lot of times cult attendees

1777
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,400
they don't just get out and leave they

1778
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,559
go from one to another as well

1779
01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:24,960
and so they keep searching i guess just

1780
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:26,160
searching for something and if they

1781
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:27,520
don't get it at the one cult they're

1782
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,640
going to try another one

1783
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,480
and so yeah and so give them what they

1784
01:01:34,230 --> 01:01:32,720
need the problem isn't always just the

1785
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:34,240
cult layer like i said i'm the people

1786
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:35,359
who are joining

1787
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:38,960
you know like the cult isn't anything

1788
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:39,680
without

1789
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,200
their issues right yeah

1790
01:01:46,230 --> 01:01:45,839
yeah absolutely and it seems to me too

1791
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,240
that

1792
01:01:49,349 --> 01:01:48,000
a lot of these cults all have very

1793
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,359
similar uh

1794
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:51,040
there's a lot of similarities between

1795
01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:52,480
leaders they're usually

1796
01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:54,640
extremely narcissistic they're usually

1797
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:57,280
intelligent and very charismatic as well

1798
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:59,280
but that's not entirely the case but

1799
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:00,400
that's what i see a lot

1800
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:03,119
like a charismatic narcissistic

1801
01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:04,240
infallible

1802
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:09,119
leader many many different times

1803
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:11,200
well you know it's it's really twisted

1804
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,720
how like someone like say

1805
01:02:16,789 --> 01:02:15,359
jim jones that people idolized him so

1806
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:16,799
much then and they

1807
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:19,760
and they still do now um i joined a

1808
01:02:23,349 --> 01:02:20,960
group on facebook

1809
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:23,359
about jim jones just to look around and

1810
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,520
it's not just a hey what happened it's

1811
01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:27,520
literally a jim jones fan club and some

1812
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,720
of the stuff that i keep

1813
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,640
seeing and screenshotting and looking at

1814
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:32,640
and researching that they post about

1815
01:02:35,910 --> 01:02:35,440
is really disturbing how much these

1816
01:02:38,069 --> 01:02:35,920
women

1817
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:38,079
pretty much are sexually attracted to

1818
01:02:40,549 --> 01:02:40,079
him and they post all his fashion tips

1819
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:40,559
and

1820
01:02:50,549 --> 01:02:46,720
make art

1821
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:53,510
i honestly feel like going in there and

1822
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:53,839
like

1823
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,799
forcing them to listen to the 45 minutes

1824
01:02:59,910 --> 01:02:58,400
last 45 minutes of him

1825
01:03:01,109 --> 01:02:59,920
them poisoning all those people and

1826
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:01,119
killing them and listening to the

1827
01:03:05,109 --> 01:03:02,720
children screaming

1828
01:03:06,549 --> 01:03:05,119
yeah like i'm like they just think he's

1829
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,559
like a rock star and they

1830
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:09,200
i'm like you people are sick yeah it's

1831
01:03:11,910 --> 01:03:10,079
just the same

1832
01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:11,920
it goes with like you know charles

1833
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:14,160
manson like he had all these fans and

1834
01:03:16,390 --> 01:03:15,760
people would send him letters and send

1835
01:03:19,029 --> 01:03:16,400
him money

1836
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:19,039
and you know try to visit him he got

1837
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:20,720
married while he was gonna say you i

1838
01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:23,359
bet he got married yeah a lot of people

1839
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:24,880
people they'll do that for serial

1840
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:27,039
killers too

1841
01:03:32,630 --> 01:03:30,160
i have people are so strange yeah

1842
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:32,640
yeah it gets pretty strange so i guess

1843
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,760
uh we're just

1844
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,440
crossing an hour if anybody has any

1845
01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:36,880
comments or questions

1846
01:03:41,510 --> 01:03:40,079
for melissa especially for melissa about

1847
01:03:44,789 --> 01:03:41,520
colts or anything else you want to ask

1848
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:44,799
her about um now is the time to do it

1849
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:46,319
please put them in all caps

1850
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:47,680
and maybe we'll take some questions from

1851
01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:49,200
the live audience if that's okay with

1852
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:57,829
and that's usually when the chat dies

1853
01:04:01,349 --> 01:03:59,440
when i answer questions

1854
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,359
like suddenly nobody's writing anything

1855
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:03,599
hey guys the spotlight's on you hurry up

1856
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,190
what do i mean because there's a comment

1857
01:04:12,150 --> 01:04:11,280
peter lavender covers cults around the

1858
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,160
processed church

1859
01:04:16,710 --> 01:04:15,119
and son of sam yeah and isn't peter

1860
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:16,720
lavender also the person

1861
01:04:24,390 --> 01:04:20,559
who wrote the necronomicon so

1862
01:04:25,510 --> 01:04:24,400
yeah interesting i haven't looked into

1863
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:25,520
the senate sam

1864
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:29,520
um but um too intensely that was the

1865
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:33,200
um he was a serial killer

1866
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:35,680
right he killed all he that was that in

1867
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:36,640
new york right

1868
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,870
i wonder how much of that he just made

1869
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,440
up to make it look like he was insane

1870
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:51,520
yeah but insanity defenses almost never

1871
01:04:55,270 --> 01:04:52,559
work so

1872
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:55,280
you can ask well yeah people try them

1873
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:56,480
they try them

1874
01:04:59,589 --> 01:04:58,319
william pixley yes hey melissa are there

1875
01:05:03,029 --> 01:04:59,599
any cults you see

1876
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:03,039
on the social scene today well i think

1877
01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:04,960
a lot of it there's a lot of questions

1878
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,280
does he mean social media

1879
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:09,599
the biggest cult that's going around and

1880
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:10,400
people

1881
01:05:13,829 --> 01:05:12,799
don't often like to hear about this but

1882
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:13,839
it's the um

1883
01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:15,440
the sort of woke cult that's going

1884
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,039
around on the streets that's

1885
01:05:21,430 --> 01:05:19,359
that's the biggest thing um where

1886
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:21,440
there's this indoctrination

1887
01:05:29,029 --> 01:05:25,760
to um basically follow a marxist

1888
01:05:31,670 --> 01:05:29,039
ideology and there they just get

1889
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,680
they indoctrinate a lot of college and

1890
01:05:36,630 --> 01:05:34,319
university kids that are out there for

1891
01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:36,640
the first time and they get them to

1892
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:38,240
believe that we're all an evil

1893
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,839
capitalist system and they have to burn

1894
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,839
us down and we're hideously we're

1895
01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:43,359
practically hitler and

1896
01:05:48,789 --> 01:05:45,280
they're out there marching for i don't

1897
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,549
who knows who it could be but i would

1898
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,079
say that a lot of this stuff that's

1899
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:54,400
like we're surrounded by it that's being

1900
01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:56,000
taught out there i would say that's

1901
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:58,640
a big one to look out for um any kind of

1902
01:06:02,789 --> 01:05:59,760
car

1903
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:02,799
i'm not sure it's called like

1904
01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:04,720
oh okay but i'm not sure that's a cult

1905
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:05,920
anymore i think that's called

1906
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:11,270
it's called yeah college is actually um

1907
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:12,559
hosting cult like

1908
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,880
indoctrination and thought it's scary

1909
01:06:18,069 --> 01:06:16,400
they're not putting out logic they're

1910
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:18,079
putting out really bad education

1911
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:20,480
that is meant to create activists who go

1912
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:21,599
out and do

1913
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:24,319
pretty much marxist terroristic stuff

1914
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:24,960
i'd say

1915
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,599
that's really disturbing um vanessa thor

1916
01:06:30,630 --> 01:06:29,200
asked do you have a youtube show

1917
01:06:32,069 --> 01:06:30,640
you have a youtube channel but can you

1918
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:32,079
tell everybody where they can catch your

1919
01:06:35,109 --> 01:06:33,200
podcast i forgot

1920
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:35,119
okay so i mean there there's a lot of

1921
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,039
places i have the website

1922
01:06:40,470 --> 01:06:39,599
it is dprogram.com and that's just the

1923
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:40,480
letter d

1924
01:06:46,870 --> 01:06:44,000
and programmed.com it's on youtube

1925
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,880
it's uh on all the podcasting like

1926
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:48,640
itunes and

1927
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:53,039
stitcher and spotify it's easier

1928
01:06:56,630 --> 01:06:55,200
yeah she does a good job and i hate her

1929
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:56,640
promos because they're good and i don't

1930
01:06:59,270 --> 01:06:58,079
know i still can't figure out how to do

1931
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,280
those promos that you do

1932
01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:01,680
what promos what products you post

1933
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:03,359
stories and there's like music and

1934
01:07:09,430 --> 01:07:04,160
graphics and

1935
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:12,950
yeah that's easy that's easy

1936
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:15,359
if you uh research which cult do you

1937
01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,119
think was

1938
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:19,280
or what do you which goal do you think

1939
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,440
is or was the worst

1940
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,760
well i think jim jones is pretty bad

1941
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:25,200
because of the body count

1942
01:07:28,309 --> 01:07:26,640
and the fact that he was able to

1943
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,319
convince all those people

1944
01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:31,200
to go over to um south america now i'm

1945
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:32,799
still researching it because there's

1946
01:07:37,349 --> 01:07:34,400
quite a possibility that there was a lot

1947
01:07:40,630 --> 01:07:39,270
in that he had a lot of support from

1948
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:40,640
maybe politics

1949
01:07:44,789 --> 01:07:44,160
and politicians as well in his church

1950
01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:44,799
that there was

1951
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:46,960
like it wasn't just him that he probably

1952
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:48,640
had a lot of different people and i have

1953
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:50,319
to still research it there's a book out

1954
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,520
there about it

1955
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:53,680
but i don't think it was so i think he

1956
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:55,440
was having funding

1957
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:58,640
other than just the people because yeah

1958
01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:00,319
killed the senator once he got over

1959
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:01,760
there yeah yeah

1960
01:08:06,390 --> 01:08:04,640
exactly and and so i think i think if

1961
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:06,400
you dig deeper it's probably even more

1962
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:08,400
ominous that he probably had connections

1963
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,839
even deeper than that

1964
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,760
but i have to go through a book about it

1965
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:13,760
and be more specific but that's one of

1966
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,319
the worst

1967
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,640
in terms of death count i i think the

1968
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:18,480
woke stuff is bad in terms of the

1969
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:19,440
country

1970
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:22,480
and actual real solid education i think

1971
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,400
it's gonna have the most damage

1972
01:08:30,149 --> 01:08:26,480
that kind of stuff that's getting taught

1973
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:30,159
in social justice warrior woke um

1974
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:31,359
in the university i think that's going

1975
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:32,799
to have the most damage on young

1976
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,920
people's minds

1977
01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,560
and actually critical thinking real

1978
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,400
critical thinking where the

1979
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:40,560
the problem is is they're seeing racism

1980
01:08:43,110 --> 01:08:41,759
everywhere where it's not

1981
01:08:44,390 --> 01:08:43,120
and so they're not because they're

1982
01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:44,400
seeing it everywhere and they're burning

1983
01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,759
everything down they're not actually

1984
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:48,239
focusing on where real racism actually

1985
01:08:51,269 --> 01:08:49,279
is

1986
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:51,279
so that's the problem and i think it's

1987
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,319
going to cause a lot of

1988
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:54,480
problems for young people who they've

1989
01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:56,000
had all this education and they won't be

1990
01:08:58,950 --> 01:08:57,279
able to get a job with it

1991
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:58,960
and no one's going to want to hire

1992
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:00,960
somebody who has on their resume

1993
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,080
i am an activist who burned cities down

1994
01:09:12,630 --> 01:09:09,600
yeah come on those are peaceful protests

1995
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:12,640
um mostly fire fiery but mostly peaceful

1996
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,199
protests

1997
01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,880
i got to watch the neighborhood i grew

1998
01:09:17,110 --> 01:09:16,640
up and burned down on my birthday this

1999
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:17,120
year

2000
01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:19,040
like literally be burned and looted on

2001
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,279
my birthday so that was depressing but

2002
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:23,040
i'm glad i got out of philadelphia

2003
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:25,839
and uh i would never i will never live

2004
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,440
in a major city again

2005
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,759
six is design yes good question this

2006
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,960
might be a good one

2007
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,719
melissa what is the craziest story

2008
01:09:36,149 --> 01:09:34,159
you've been told to read

2009
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:36,159
one that is clearly not even close to

2010
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:42,309
well most cults aren't that close to

2011
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:47,269
that's a hard one i mean i would i would

2012
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:49,440
guess that a lot of these ufo cults

2013
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:50,239
where they're

2014
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:52,000
like literally committing suicide and

2015
01:09:58,229 --> 01:09:54,560
they think that like what was that one

2016
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,239
that um art bell talked about

2017
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,640
and oh where they thought the comet was

2018
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,159
coming and they all did this math

2019
01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,560
suicide oh yeah yeah what was that what

2020
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,320
was that called that that's pretty

2021
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:08,800
strange i'm we did i did a show on the

2022
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,880
oh yeah um

2023
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:12,320
thank you yeah that's where you got to

2024
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:13,679
cut your cup you got to cut your dick

2025
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:14,560
off too

2026
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:17,360
yeah okay that's pretty like unrealistic

2027
01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:17,760
to

2028
01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,679
and people who didn't who missed out the

2029
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:25,679
chance to kill themselves later

2030
01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:28,080
who were part of the cult wanted to die

2031
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:28,960
like like

2032
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:32,320
that's pretty weird like that the level

2033
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,800
of

2034
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,239
brainwashing you have to do to get

2035
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:36,480
people to believe that is is insane

2036
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,640
um we did a show on like i mentioned it

2037
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:40,640
before it was the zombie witch doctor

2038
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:41,360
and

2039
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:42,719
that was a really weird experience

2040
01:10:46,630 --> 01:10:44,719
because i was really badly harassed from

2041
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,640
like really badly harassed from that guy

2042
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,719
we didn't use his name but he knew he

2043
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:50,560
knew who it was and he's like a drunken

2044
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:51,280
old

2045
01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:54,560
guy on youtube and he was saying he had

2046
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:56,960
on youtube oh yeah nobody knows it he

2047
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:58,000
had people

2048
01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:01,120
harassing me he had witches doing cult

2049
01:11:04,229 --> 01:11:03,840
rituals against me he was sending hexes

2050
01:11:06,070 --> 01:11:04,239
out

2051
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,080
and he was trying to get people in my

2052
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:08,560
inbox and try to get me to say messages

2053
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:09,360
about people

2054
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:11,199
and a friend requesting me and i'm

2055
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:12,560
pretty sure he was on my

2056
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:14,960
facebook as different friends like he he

2057
01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:16,239
was quite crazy and

2058
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,400
he had all these witches that he was

2059
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,560
gonna get to

2060
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:22,960
put a hex on me and i was like oh it

2061
01:11:26,229 --> 01:11:24,560
like is actually probably worse than the

2062
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,239
mikey horn guy

2063
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:27,840
he was he's quite nuts we're actually

2064
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:29,840
thinking of doing um a return of the

2065
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:35,669
he was nuts so yeah he had a he had a

2066
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,880
whole group of

2067
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,120
high order witches apparently trying to

2068
01:11:44,630 --> 01:11:41,040
take me out for christmas time and

2069
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:44,640
and do me under with several curses

2070
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,040
well here's another good question what

2071
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:49,199
are your thoughts about the cue card

2072
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:52,719
oh uh qn

2073
01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:55,679
on um yeah i don't know if it's

2074
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,800
government psyops

2075
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:59,199
or or what it is that's a confusing

2076
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:00,880
that's really confusing one

2077
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:03,520
it's um i don't think it's as bad as the

2078
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:06,000
social justice warrior stuff because

2079
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,520
it doesn't have all the the thing about

2080
01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,800
all this woke stuff it's got the

2081
01:12:14,550 --> 01:12:12,719
corporations it's got hollywood behind

2082
01:12:15,270 --> 01:12:14,560
it it has the universities it's in the

2083
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:15,280
school

2084
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,560
and it's got a lot of power behind it

2085
01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:20,560
that's why i'm quite nervous about the

2086
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:22,640
way that they're doing it uh

2087
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:26,320
q anon is um it i don't know if it's

2088
01:12:31,110 --> 01:12:28,480
psyops or someone's doing something it

2089
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:31,120
just seems like a

2090
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,159
and doesn't i david wilcox kind of

2091
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,239
talk about q and it just seems like

2092
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:38,640
something that people are using to

2093
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:40,719
get people to keep engaging with them

2094
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,840
and send money

2095
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:43,520
and there's people out there obviously

2096
01:12:46,229 --> 01:12:44,800
who are forming groups who actually

2097
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:46,239
believe that it's happening

2098
01:12:49,590 --> 01:12:48,159
i had one listener who kept sending me

2099
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:49,600
messages about that

2100
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,440
he believed that there was an alliance

2101
01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:53,199
that was watching over us

2102
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:55,120
and he's gonna save trump and he was

2103
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:56,320
like it's gonna happen

2104
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:57,920
it's happening there watch you just wait

2105
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,239
everything will be okay and i was like

2106
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,719
no one's coming to save us it's just us

2107
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,880
i told them it's just

2108
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,719
no one's no one's coming to save us i

2109
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:08,400
said it sounds like

2110
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:11,920
nonsense the alliance president

2111
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:15,360
and uh david was crying on his shadow on

2112
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,239
his live stream

2113
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,640
and it was priceless and i played it

2114
01:13:23,830 --> 01:13:21,199
because i'm an [\h__\h]

2115
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:23,840
it was i cried you know and when i shut

2116
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:25,280
him down like i used to say hi and be

2117
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:26,480
nice to him but when i shut him down and

2118
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:27,920
said it's just us i don't believe in

2119
01:13:30,790 --> 01:13:28,239
this

2120
01:13:32,790 --> 01:13:30,800
he stopped messaging me all together so

2121
01:13:33,669 --> 01:13:32,800
that was nice because i don't want it i

2122
01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:33,679
didn't want

2123
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,360
i'm not i'm like i'm that wasn't going

2124
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:37,120
to delude him and like oh really

2125
01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:39,120
they're watching us that's awesome and

2126
01:13:44,229 --> 01:13:40,480
i'm like nobody it's just

2127
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:44,239
us yeah this is again this is like

2128
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,679
it feeds on people's hopes you know like

2129
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,159
they once so desperately people that are

2130
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,760
against hillary clinton

2131
01:13:55,990 --> 01:13:54,000
for her to be arrested and you know

2132
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:56,000
indicted or something that they

2133
01:13:59,189 --> 01:13:57,760
they create this whole fictional

2134
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:59,199
nonsense

2135
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:00,800
you know and then there's nuts that are

2136
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:03,199
like no they did arrest hillary clinton

2137
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:04,719
the new one's a clone

2138
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:07,120
and it just gets so stupid well you know

2139
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:08,880
what do you know what's crazy is they're

2140
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,640
probably going to have that technology

2141
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,239
where they can actually clone you and

2142
01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:14,480
make you into a three-dimensional

2143
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:16,480
occupied space

2144
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,600
and they're probably going to have that

2145
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:19,600
soon so

2146
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:22,640
it's not it's not undoable but i don't

2147
01:14:31,110 --> 01:14:28,149
it's not yeah it's it's it's in the

2148
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:31,120
future uh vanessa thor says i don't see

2149
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:32,960
how woke marxism is more of a threat

2150
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:35,520
than queuing on far right totalitarian

2151
01:14:38,630 --> 01:14:38,159
dictatorship and straight up fastest

2152
01:14:44,149 --> 01:14:38,640
fascist

2153
01:14:47,669 --> 01:14:46,390
i can explain that easier because mark's

2154
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:47,679
uh if you don't know

2155
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:50,800
much about um mussolini and marxism

2156
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:53,199
mussolini was a marxist so he's take he

2157
01:14:56,550 --> 01:14:54,320
took marxism

2158
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:56,560
and married it with ideas of nationalism

2159
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:58,000
to create fascism

2160
01:15:02,070 --> 01:15:00,320
because he didn't see marxism going on

2161
01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:02,080
he wanted the proletariat to rise up

2162
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:03,600
against the bourgeoisie and it wasn't

2163
01:15:06,790 --> 01:15:04,320
happening

2164
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,800
so he had he started to look at how

2165
01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:08,080
things were going

2166
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,159
and what he realized was that the

2167
01:15:15,669 --> 01:15:12,080
bourgeoisie the rich people

2168
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:15,679
they responded to things within their

2169
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:16,239
group

2170
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:17,679
it was about money in business the

2171
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:19,440
proletariat people

2172
01:15:22,630 --> 01:15:21,679
they responded to a sense of national

2173
01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:22,640
identity

2174
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:24,560
so he took that sense of national

2175
01:15:29,270 --> 01:15:26,560
identity manipulated it

2176
01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:29,280
into fascism and just because you're

2177
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,800
national and you're proud of your

2178
01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:31,600
country

2179
01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:34,000
doesn't mean that you are a fascist

2180
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:35,040
either

2181
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:36,640
there's a lot of different other

2182
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:38,560
elements that goes in with fascism

2183
01:15:43,950 --> 01:15:42,159
so mussolini really had marxism as

2184
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:43,960
its base and there's a lot of

2185
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:46,800
socialistic elements in fascism so he

2186
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:48,400
kind of hybrided those together

2187
01:15:52,149 --> 01:15:50,000
and a lot of people won't tell you that

2188
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,159
about history so when you're dealing

2189
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:54,320
with the woke doctrine they're taking

2190
01:15:57,110 --> 01:15:56,000
marxist elements it's not totally

2191
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:57,120
communism

2192
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:58,880
but they're taking marxist elements the

2193
01:16:01,270 --> 01:16:00,560
problem with it and why it's such a

2194
01:16:03,430 --> 01:16:01,280
threat and i've

2195
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:03,440
i just said this before is q anon

2196
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:04,719
doesn't have a lot of power

2197
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:06,159
they're they're not in the guard they're

2198
01:16:09,590 --> 01:16:08,000
not in hollywood they don't have the

2199
01:16:11,590 --> 01:16:09,600
corporation supporting them

2200
01:16:13,030 --> 01:16:11,600
they don't have the support of the

2201
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:13,040
education system

2202
01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:16,320
they don't have the support of um of a

2203
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:17,199
lot of

2204
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:20,400
government people and if they like

2205
01:16:24,149 --> 01:16:21,760
trump's not going to support them

2206
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,159
because he just wants their vote

2207
01:16:27,510 --> 01:16:26,480
when you're looking at people who are

2208
01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:27,520
running around

2209
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:30,080
like antifa and i dated an antifa guy

2210
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:31,120
when they're running around they're

2211
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,640
being paid by somebody

2212
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,719
lots of money to do this and they've got

2213
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,640
the power of billionaires and

2214
01:16:39,669 --> 01:16:37,920
corporations

2215
01:16:41,189 --> 01:16:39,679
and they're saying everybody's racist

2216
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,199
and they're creating this division with

2217
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:42,480
everybody and they're creating a lot of

2218
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:43,040
problems

2219
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:44,880
they're a problem because of the all the

2220
01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:46,719
institutions that they have

2221
01:16:53,189 --> 01:16:50,480
behind them and that's that's why hitler

2222
01:16:54,709 --> 01:16:53,199
became a problem because he if you think

2223
01:16:57,990 --> 01:16:54,719
it was like just hitler

2224
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:58,000
versus um churchill um no

2225
01:17:02,229 --> 01:17:00,320
somebody had money and they get probably

2226
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:02,239
gave both sides money and supported them

2227
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,880
and said well

2228
01:17:06,870 --> 01:17:05,199
let's see who wins you know somebody was

2229
01:17:08,229 --> 01:17:06,880
sending these guys money

2230
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:08,239
and it's the same thing and

2231
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:11,040
unfortunately the extreme extreme

2232
01:17:14,149 --> 01:17:12,640
leftists that aren't even moderate at

2233
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:14,159
all most of us are moderate

2234
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:15,440
they've got the power of the

2235
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,960
billionaires and stuff behind them

2236
01:17:19,189 --> 01:17:18,320
that's what makes them more threatening

2237
01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:19,199
right now because they're

2238
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:21,040
actually the ones who are acting like

2239
01:17:24,950 --> 01:17:22,880
the brown shirts and and burning down

2240
01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:24,960
stuff they're acting more fascist than

2241
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:28,239
than q anon right now oh and she asks

2242
01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,280
you dated in a

2243
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:31,280
tifa guy who you know was paid by

2244
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,280
corporations

2245
01:17:38,470 --> 01:17:35,600
um no i didn't say that i said i dated a

2246
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:38,480
t antivir guy and i do know that antifa

2247
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:40,159
gets funding from corporations i mean

2248
01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:41,040
they've traced it

2249
01:17:44,950 --> 01:17:43,199
they've traced this back they know a lot

2250
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,960
of soros and a lot of people

2251
01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:46,800
fund different organization groups i

2252
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,800
mean soros buys your whole justice

2253
01:17:52,470 --> 01:17:50,640
department he pays the d.a he oh he

2254
01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:52,480
openly says this

2255
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,040
think pays antifa

2256
01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,640
hollywood people are bailing them out

2257
01:18:03,430 --> 01:18:00,640
left right and cro center

2258
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,440
i mean good lord they're they're paying

2259
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:05,040
them out left right and center they have

2260
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:06,960
gofundme set up all the time

2261
01:18:11,350 --> 01:18:09,280
soros probably pays a lot of people if

2262
01:18:12,470 --> 01:18:11,360
we want to get into conspiracy land a

2263
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:12,480
little bit here

2264
01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:15,199
i keep getting these emails and people

2265
01:18:17,990 --> 01:18:17,199
messaging me and sending me information

2266
01:18:20,149 --> 01:18:18,000
and even

2267
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:20,159
a few people who i know who were

2268
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,280
traveling

2269
01:18:24,790 --> 01:18:22,880
and there's sort of a new conspiracy

2270
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:24,800
that's just now coming out

2271
01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:27,520
about i suppose it's about antifa in

2272
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:28,239
that

2273
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:32,320
you go into a luxury hotel in a major

2274
01:18:35,189 --> 01:18:33,199
city

2275
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:35,199
that there's whole floors that are

2276
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:36,480
rented out and there's

2277
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:38,960
thugs wearing black masks and [\h__\h]

2278
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:40,000
coming in and out of these

2279
01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,480
places and they're going to surprise me

2280
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:44,239
and they're very expensive hotels so

2281
01:18:47,430 --> 01:18:45,600
that may be a conspiracy we're going to

2282
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:47,440
look into in the future here

2283
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,520
yeah that that wouldn't surprise me um i

2284
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:51,120
don't i can't confirm that because i

2285
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:52,800
don't know that but i know my ex-partner

2286
01:18:56,350 --> 01:18:54,000
he used to go all over

2287
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,360
england and he would go up to

2288
01:19:01,910 --> 01:18:58,640
anarcho-communist meetings that were

2289
01:19:03,750 --> 01:19:01,920
and you know you're only going to know

2290
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:03,760
so much at a certain level right

2291
01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:06,480
like you're only going to um know so

2292
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,120
much so

2293
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:09,199
if you're not really high how up yes or

2294
01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:17,270
yeah but i mean it's it's crazy and it's

2295
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:18,800
confusing because

2296
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,239
that's the only reason i don't think

2297
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:22,159
hugh anon's good i don't think it's good

2298
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,280
at all because

2299
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:25,920
i mean at any point what if what if what

2300
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:27,760
if corporations decided to get behind

2301
01:19:30,149 --> 01:19:28,159
that

2302
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:30,159
i mean it could have been anyone there

2303
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,760
that's just they're just not behind that

2304
01:19:36,310 --> 01:19:33,679
right now they're behind extreme

2305
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:36,320
left ideology and the democrats are

2306
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:37,280
supporting that

2307
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:39,440
i don't think the democrats believe that

2308
01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:41,600
i i mean i i've always voted liberal i

2309
01:19:46,229 --> 01:19:43,520
think they're just using that at the

2310
01:19:46,630 --> 01:19:46,239
right now trying to get the votes and it

2311
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:46,640
could

2312
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:49,600
like it's just it's so supported by so

2313
01:19:52,390 --> 01:19:50,480
many things

2314
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:52,400
and it's not healthy for people it's not

2315
01:19:55,510 --> 01:19:54,400
a healthy ideology it's not healthy to

2316
01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,520
burn buildings down

2317
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:58,000
it's just it's not good it just creates

2318
01:20:01,830 --> 01:19:59,840
mental illness

2319
01:20:03,669 --> 01:20:01,840
yeah and they use and they use people

2320
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:03,679
who have mental illness just like cults

2321
01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:04,719
do

2322
01:20:08,790 --> 01:20:07,360
yeah yeah it's it's disturbing to me to

2323
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:08,800
see what's going on out there in the

2324
01:20:12,550 --> 01:20:10,480
streets especially in the major cities

2325
01:20:14,629 --> 01:20:12,560
it's disturbing for me to see this sort

2326
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:14,639
of exodus out of the mass cities

2327
01:20:18,550 --> 01:20:16,719
and that's not a conspiracy theory it's

2328
01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,560
pretty well documented especially in new

2329
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:20,480
york city and where i

2330
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,960
grew up philadelphia you can't get a

2331
01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:24,000
moving van

2332
01:20:27,350 --> 01:20:26,000
right now if you live in new york or in

2333
01:20:28,950 --> 01:20:27,360
philadelphia there's so many people

2334
01:20:31,590 --> 01:20:28,960
moving out left and right

2335
01:20:33,189 --> 01:20:31,600
the housing markets are crashing uh you

2336
01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:33,199
know

2337
01:20:37,189 --> 01:20:35,520
it's it's cr it creates unrest and the

2338
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:37,199
reason why it's a problem is it creates

2339
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:38,159
unrest

2340
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:40,880
um uh you know it could disrupt the food

2341
01:20:44,229 --> 01:20:42,639
supply chain like there's a whole bunch

2342
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,239
of things that could go wrong

2343
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:46,960
with all of this stuff um further down

2344
01:20:50,550 --> 01:20:47,520
the line

2345
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,560
if it keeps going yeah and that's

2346
01:20:54,790 --> 01:20:53,199
that's why it's a problem yeah and and i

2347
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:54,800
always wonder like

2348
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:56,000
some of these people that are out there

2349
01:20:58,629 --> 01:20:57,840
protesting every day they must not have

2350
01:21:02,229 --> 01:20:58,639
jobs or

2351
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,239
or things to do all day and uh

2352
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,000
you know like a normal person has to go

2353
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:06,159
to work so you can't spend

2354
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,800
day and night you know holding up signs

2355
01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:11,280
and marching and doing all this stuff

2356
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:12,960
even if you would want to because you

2357
01:21:17,110 --> 01:21:15,040
just got other things to do so

2358
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:17,120
i personally believe that some of them

2359
01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:19,679
are being paid or funded or helped

2360
01:21:25,350 --> 01:21:22,719
by somebody it's just a question of who

2361
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:25,360
yeah funding and you know what most of

2362
01:21:27,990 --> 01:21:26,239
them on the street

2363
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:28,000
probably don't know they probably don't

2364
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:30,239
know it's probably really like any kind

2365
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:32,239
of slush fund or any kind of

2366
01:21:35,270 --> 01:21:33,600
you know thing that goes on they

2367
01:21:36,629 --> 01:21:35,280
wouldn't know i mean we will never

2368
01:21:38,470 --> 01:21:36,639
figure out it'd be it's going to be

2369
01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:38,480
really hard to trace

2370
01:21:44,310 --> 01:21:42,159
that back oh and here don craig's face

2371
01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:44,320
says u-haul sold out in new york city

2372
01:21:49,270 --> 01:21:47,440
until next spring so there you go

2373
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,280
there's some indication that it's not a

2374
01:21:53,189 --> 01:21:51,120
conspiracy theory people really are

2375
01:21:54,790 --> 01:21:53,199
leaving the cities and droves

2376
01:21:56,149 --> 01:21:54,800
they don't feel safe there i didn't feel

2377
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:56,159
safe with especially after i had

2378
01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:57,520
children

2379
01:22:01,830 --> 01:21:59,040
i didn't feel safe where we were living

2380
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:01,840
in the city anymore and then yeah

2381
01:22:05,830 --> 01:22:04,400
right after we moved they uh i'm not

2382
01:22:08,149 --> 01:22:05,840
sure if they put it there yet but

2383
01:22:10,870 --> 01:22:08,159
they're going to put a safe injection

2384
01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:10,880
site like two miles from where my house

2385
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:12,080
used to be

2386
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:15,040
so i for one am overjoyed to get out of

2387
01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,600
the city

2388
01:22:19,430 --> 01:22:17,600
and at least we're in the suburbs now

2389
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:19,440
and it's very calm where we are very

2390
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,400
quiet

2391
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:22,320
and uh you know of course that stuff

2392
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:23,840
could spill out into the suburbs

2393
01:22:26,229 --> 01:22:25,920
eventually after they wrecked the cities

2394
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:26,239
but

2395
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:29,600
there's a buffer there at least you know

2396
01:22:34,310 --> 01:22:32,320
your vanessa tour says um fbi confirmed

2397
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,320
that after investigative is not a cult

2398
01:22:38,070 --> 01:22:36,400
or terror group but an ideology

2399
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:38,080
um well they're not they're not just an

2400
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:39,280
ideology because they're out there

2401
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,880
burning down buildings that

2402
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,440
is not just an ideology and if they were

2403
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:45,120
just an ideology they wouldn't be out

2404
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:45,840
there

2405
01:22:51,590 --> 01:22:47,440
throwing bricks at people and burning

2406
01:22:54,709 --> 01:22:53,910
that's my response to that sorry but i

2407
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:54,719
mean

2408
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:56,159
you can't you can't if you're an

2409
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:58,480
ideology you wouldn't be you know burnt

2410
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,920
burning down the system and that's

2411
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:02,239
that's ideology is just a thought or a

2412
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:02,719
belief

2413
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:04,960
i don't i guess doesn't spill over into

2414
01:23:08,310 --> 01:23:06,239
violent action no

2415
01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:08,320
it doesn't and my ex he used to always

2416
01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:09,600
say that we're going to take it down

2417
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:10,960
we're going to burn it all down that's

2418
01:23:14,070 --> 01:23:12,000
the goal

2419
01:23:16,629 --> 01:23:14,080
burn the whole system down and i'd be

2420
01:23:17,910 --> 01:23:16,639
like wow

2421
01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:17,920
that's why that's why he's an

2422
01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:20,560
ex-boyfriend yeah i guess you got bad

2423
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,440
taste in men

2424
01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:26,550
that's funny it didn't it was only a few

2425
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:28,400
months it didn't take me long to be like

2426
01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,040
see ya

2427
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,080
see you later buddy yeah good luck

2428
01:23:35,350 --> 01:23:34,960
good luck on the crusade right yeah have

2429
01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:35,360
fun

2430
01:23:39,030 --> 01:23:37,600
and and i mean they're comrades some of

2431
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:39,040
them i don't think all of them but some

2432
01:23:42,870 --> 01:23:40,800
of them go out and train

2433
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,880
military-wise and he would say that oh

2434
01:23:46,950 --> 01:23:44,880
comrade went away to train and do this

2435
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:46,960
and i'm like what are you talking about

2436
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:48,800
but apparently some of them go out and

2437
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:51,679
do do some kind of training to fight

2438
01:23:57,030 --> 01:23:55,120
which is strange for an ideology

2439
01:23:59,030 --> 01:23:57,040
i mean if you're going out training and

2440
01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:59,040
and learning actual military stuff or

2441
01:24:01,350 --> 01:24:00,560
how to fight that's that's kind of

2442
01:24:04,709 --> 01:24:01,360
strange

2443
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,719
if you're an ideology to do that yeah

2444
01:24:08,629 --> 01:24:06,800
i don't know all of this stuff makes me

2445
01:24:09,430 --> 01:24:08,639
want to just check out of society in

2446
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:09,440
general

2447
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:12,239
it's so it's so but they asked me to

2448
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:16,960
literally go live in the woods

2449
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:18,239
that's yeah that's probably why you

2450
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:19,840
built your cabin and people ask me and

2451
01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:21,440
i'm just being really truthful that i

2452
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,040
think that's a really big problem right

2453
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:24,480
now for society because it's very

2454
01:24:27,270 --> 01:24:25,360
divisive

2455
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,280
and like just in the comments it's so

2456
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:28,960
extremely divisive

2457
01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:31,760
that um they're doing this and and it

2458
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,239
doesn't have to be that way

2459
01:24:37,510 --> 01:24:36,480
yeah and now i think that there's you

2460
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:37,520
know i'm all for

2461
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:40,560
uh an end to any kind of police

2462
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:43,679
brutality or abuse but it seems like

2463
01:24:47,510 --> 01:24:45,840
it seems like now anytime there's going

2464
01:24:50,229 --> 01:24:47,520
to be an incident

2465
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:50,239
that involves a black person being shot

2466
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:50,639
or

2467
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:53,360
uh whatever there's going to be some

2468
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:54,960
kind of backlash and i don't know

2469
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:56,800
what the answer is it's a complicated

2470
01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:58,320
situation because you can't just let

2471
01:25:01,510 --> 01:24:58,800
people

2472
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:01,520
you know threaten a police officer's

2473
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:02,320
with gun

2474
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:05,679
you know or or whatever

2475
01:25:10,870 --> 01:25:08,560
but you know i'm all for more fairness

2476
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:10,880
when it comes to the way police handle

2477
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,920
racial situations i guess everybody

2478
01:25:17,750 --> 01:25:15,760
should be treated equally and i know

2479
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:17,760
i'm smart enough to know that they're

2480
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:19,760
not you know

2481
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:22,400
well anyways i'm not going to respond to

2482
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:24,080
the white supremacy comments because

2483
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:25,199
there's there's not even

2484
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,120
white supremacy is not even a problem

2485
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:29,199
there's not even 11 000 people in your

2486
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:29,920
country

2487
01:25:34,229 --> 01:25:32,719
that are a white supremacy i mean it's

2488
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:34,239
just not some vast

2489
01:25:38,709 --> 01:25:36,320
hoarding problem i think that's um the

2490
01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,719
media poorly reporting stuff

2491
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:41,040
in my opinion because they're not the

2492
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:42,480
ones out on the street right now

2493
01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:46,080
looting and burning um and um torches

2494
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,199
and khaki pants are

2495
01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:49,600
yeah that's pretty low like that is

2496
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:50,239
there's so

2497
01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:52,000
not so many they're just they're just

2498
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:53,920
really insignificant compared to what's

2499
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:55,920
happening out there right now

2500
01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:58,560
um it's just it's it's just gone out of

2501
01:26:01,189 --> 01:26:00,239
hand so it's obviously they're being

2502
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:01,199
funded and

2503
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:02,880
it's it is just a problem because

2504
01:26:06,390 --> 01:26:04,480
there's really good solutions you can

2505
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:06,400
have really good solutions to police

2506
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:08,480
brutality and different problems that

2507
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:09,760
don't involve

2508
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:12,159
you know destroying the most vulnerable

2509
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:13,520
people's

2510
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,760
neighborhoods like they're you know

2511
01:26:19,830 --> 01:26:16,800
destroying

2512
01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:19,840
like people's entire businesses yeah and

2513
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:21,199
i don't understand like black lives

2514
01:26:24,310 --> 01:26:22,000
matter looting

2515
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:24,320
black owned stores yeah black lives

2516
01:26:26,950 --> 01:26:25,360
matter then leave

2517
01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:26,960
at least leave your people alone and

2518
01:26:30,229 --> 01:26:28,639
just go after the white people stores

2519
01:26:30,790 --> 01:26:30,239
that would make a little more sense to

2520
01:26:33,590 --> 01:26:30,800
me but

2521
01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:33,600
yeah and any sense and if it matters

2522
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:35,120
then they should be giving all those

2523
01:26:38,470 --> 01:26:36,800
millions and millions of dollars that

2524
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,480
they've raised to help

2525
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:40,560
people build their houses again and help

2526
01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:42,239
schools but that's they don't give them

2527
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:43,280
any money so

2528
01:26:52,070 --> 01:26:50,149
yeah well friends uh we're coming up on

2529
01:26:53,830 --> 01:26:52,080
an hour and a half i think uh

2530
01:26:55,270 --> 01:26:53,840
we're going to probably wrap things up

2531
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:55,280
here i want to thank

2532
01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:57,520
melissa and invite everybody really you

2533
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got to check out i'm still

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catching up on all of her podcasts but i

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have a strange interest in colts and

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01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:05,360
weird stuff like that and i really

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enjoyed every one of our shows that i

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listened to i think you guys would too

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so really go over and subscribe

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2541
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2542
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:18,870
and so friends i think we're going to

2543
01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:20,400
wrap it up here thanks for doing this

2544
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,880
tonight

2545
01:27:24,390 --> 01:27:22,560
it was it was no problem get to talk to

2546
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:24,400
you and unpack our michael warren

2547
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:25,760
[\h__\h] parade

2548
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,800
oh yes yeah

2549
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:30,639
i'm sure there's more to come i'm sure

2550
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:31,920
there's more to come maybe we'll have

2551
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,880
you come back on

2552
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,560
once he gets pissed enough to send more

2553
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:36,239
[\h__\h] to both of you

2554
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:38,000
well you and kell have to come on my

2555
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:44,070
i'll definitely do that all right

2556
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:45,360
friends we're going to wrap things up

2557
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,800
here i want to thank each and every one

2558
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:47,840
of you for joining us

2559
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:51,760
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2563
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2568
01:28:08,070 --> 01:28:06,719
uh until next time friends my name is

2569
01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:08,080
stephen campion

2570
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:14,870
good night and god bless and just stand

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01:29:33,530 --> 01:28:50,500
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